James 2
12 So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free. 13 For there will be no mercy for you if you have not been merciful to others. But if you have been merciful, then God's mercy toward you will win out over his judgment against you.
There is a difference in TAKING authority and being given authority...think on this for a while ...at least until I go hear my Friend Sister Pastor Sarah Jackson preach...She up in about 5 minutes...
Have you ever noticed we can have pages after pages of people discussing cut or uncut hair and the magic power that the uncut gives women. Of course the doctrine has been taught strongly for years..
But... look at this scripture, it is pretty plain... so what are we doing.. picking and choosing what is culture and what is not?
1 Cor 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
No, I am not against a woman speaking in a church... doesn't anyone else see the inconsistancies?
btw, I don't care for the way this woman is going about speaking/preaching.. she is trying to emulate a man... that disturbs me.
I think you either take that scripture literally and women do not speak in church period, which I think we know it doesn't mean that. Or understand what was happening and WHY it was given.
Most know that women did not attend the assembly before Jesus opened that door to them. They didn't understand what was happening and was yelling across the assembly, "Hey, Joe, what is he doing now?", (paraphased)
That is why he said for them to learn at home from their own husbands.
It never meant in this scripture that a women could not teach, speak, sing, or anything else.
If we want to go down the road of picking and choosing, then why do women sing? Why do they teach sunday school? That requires speaking.
There is a difference in TAKING authority and being given authority...think on this for a while ...at least until I go hear my Friend Sister Pastor Sarah Jackson preach...She up in about 5 minutes...
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Was Paul inspired to write it???????????????????
He said "I" As in "Him" PAUL. Was every thing he wrote under an Insperation of thus sayeth the Lord??
And HE wrote letters.
Every passing word or though of Paul was not God.
Apostolics use his writings as a doctrine to put down women.
Women were looked upon differntly back then.
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1 Timothy 2
1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
7Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
8I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.
9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
Paul or one of the writers; had written about slaves and submitting to masters, do we teach its ok to have a slaves?
God did not say, "Now Paul Write these things to The church!"