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10-30-2017, 10:12 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
You are a good shepherd(pastor)?
TK is?
Mike is?
I need you guys as my good pastor(shepherd)?
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10-30-2017, 10:15 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Galatians 1King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
I agree.
Does anyone else agree?
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10-31-2017, 08:31 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Sean,
I am not following the entire thread, only bump in with my questions.
But, seems like I remember you speaking about how when the scripture said something like "God and the Lord Jesus Christ", you felt that was affirmation for your doctrine.
So, I was reading this weekend and came across this:
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Did some checking and found this:
Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
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Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
if you say that in example A it means 2 then how do you view these scriptures?
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bump for Sean!
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10-31-2017, 09:03 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
bump for Sean!
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Sean already responded to you with this.
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Originally Posted by Sean
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father...
Our Father is God also.
Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
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Our Father is God also.
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father
Our Father is God also, which is inside Jesus Christ, in whom we have our hope.
I obviously take Col 2:9 in consideration when I see God and Jesus described as after the resurrection.
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And as hard as it is to see how on earth that was Sean's answer to your well thought-out post, that's as good of a reply as he gives--that is if he gives one at all.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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10-31-2017, 09:11 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Sean already responded to you with this.
And as hard as it is to see how on earth that was Sean's answer to your well thought-out post, that's as good of a reply as he gives--that is if he gives one at all.
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Thanks, TK.
I saw the post but did not recognize it as a response to my question.
And it was not.
My question was:
What was the difference between the scriptures where it says:
God and the Lord Jesus Christ
(or some phrase like that)
and
God and Our Father.
In one instance Sean says that this shows a difference between God and Jesus.
But, in the second instance he says that the scripture means just God.
Seems to me this is an inconsistent argument.
As a matter of fact it is more than just seems, it IS inconsistent.
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10-31-2017, 09:12 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Thanks, TK.
I saw the post but did not recognize it as a response to my question.
And it was not.
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You're welcome...and you're not alone.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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10-31-2017, 02:30 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
Galatians 1King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
I agree.
Does anyone else agree?
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If anyone does not agree, why not?
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10-31-2017, 06:17 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
If anyone does not agree, why not?
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Agree? Sean, it’s God’s Word, so of course everyone agrees.
One thing your posts make clear is that you are clueless about posting.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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10-31-2017, 09:13 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
No, I am clueless about how to make it one person
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11-01-2017, 08:34 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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No, I am clueless about how to make it one person
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But you make it one "person" when it says:
"God and our Father"
According to the way you see the other phrases, then that phrase should be two, as well.
Or
Maybe the you are right about "God and our Father".
That means one.
And
So do the phrases that say "God and the Lord Jesus Christ".
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