End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sister Alvear]

Oh! for the zeal of the early church. Those early Christians preached the word in spite of losing loved ones and friends. Those early Christians were sometimes isolated and alone, but they still preached the gospel. Those early Christians were forced to leave home and hearth behind, but they still preached the word.
Read the history of the early church....One history book said they acted as if the were invaders from another world...if we could only feel that passion....that devotion....

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

“The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”; but prophesying includes something more than testimony; it includes teaching, exhortation, and edification, by unfolding the deep mysteries of the kingdom, and it also may include foretelling of events, etc.

And for a woman to do that she must open her mouth...and prophecy is said to be given in the church....But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Tim. 2:11, 12. This can not refer to women ministering through spiritual gifts, for God always gives with the gift the authority for the ministration of the same. Even in case of a husband and wife, if the wife is gifted and the husband not, she has the authority to exercise the gift, and she is not usurping any authority which belongs to him. The authority in the church belongs with the gifts to those possessing them, and not to some relative, wife or husband....

God is over His church and he told us in His word to desirse spiritual gifts...and especially to prophecy....

And you have been shown over & over & over that the verb translated as "prophesy" defines as "to break forth under sudden impulse in lofty discourse" & does NOT mean to exposit from the Scriptures (which would be "to teach" - something women are clearly forbid to do to men in the church).


Keep trying Sis. - & I'll keep demonstrating your error & willful stubbornness .

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

V3 the men were in prison....in verse 3 with the women...BUT others that were not in prison WERE scattered abroad and went everywhere preaching...v 4

Infants & babies were equally "scattered abroad" - were they equally "preaching the Word" ?


O' consistency thou art a jewel!


Besides, for about the 200th time now - these passages are not discussing instructions to the NT church (as is I Timothy 2 & I Cor. 14) - but rather winning the lost....which every one should certainly do (& we've explained this to you for literally years now).

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.


They will never get us all...just like in many parts of the world they hale men and women to prison BUT there are always a they....and they go everywhere preaching....

[rdp]

As I have said many times, we have personally known a supposed "women-preacher" who is a complete embarrassment to some of her family members.


Gets in the pulpit hollerin' & screamin' under the guise of "anointing" - now she has called her husband to "preach." Good man - "Preacher" - Not for one second (trust me, I know the situation very closely...But then again, you already knew that eh' Sis. A ?).


She gave virtually every pastor who wouldn't use her absolute fits - until she finally found one who'll use her - & wonder of wonders, he's the best thing since sliced bread to her.....Geeeee, who-da'-thunk it ?



God will be her Judge in eternity, but I cannot fellowship "women-preachers" until they repent of their rebellion to clear Scripture .

[Sister Alvear]

Men and women....

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

“The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”; but prophesying includes something more than testimony; it includes teaching, exhortation, and edification, by unfolding the deep mysteries of the kingdom, and it also may include foretelling of events, etc.

And for a woman to do that she must open her mouth...and prophecy is said to be given in the church....But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” 1 Tim. 2:11, 12. This can not refer to women ministering through spiritual gifts, for God always gives with the gift the authority for the ministration of the same. Even in case of a husband and wife, if the wife is gifted and the husband not, she has the authority to exercise the gift, and she is not usurping any authority which belongs to him. The authority in the church belongs with the gifts to those possessing them, and not to some relative, wife or husband....

God is over His church and he told us in His word to desirse spiritual gifts...and especially to prophecy....

This is perverted. This is an attempt, however poor, to go contrary to the express teaching of 1 Tim 2:11-12, 1Cor 14:34-35. There is a clear difference between spiritual gifts and the called offices of ministry. Anyone in the church can be used in the gifts per 1 Cor 14, not everyone in the church meets the qualifications required for the offices of the called ministry. Unless of course you allow same sex marriages for bishops and deacons. Where was that female OT priest? Where is that NT female bishop or deacon or their qualifications? Where is that NT female apostle chosen by Christ? Where is that female evangelist, so named, in the Bible? Where is the female elder in the NT, where is that female pastor in the Bible?

Gal 1:7..  ..Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

Exactly - It's pitiful .

mmm, takes one to know one there--you guys should maybe take a poll or something. Prax is right.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Men and women....

"In Prison" .

[rdp]

Originally Posted by shazeep

mmm, takes one to know one there--you guys should maybe take a poll or something. Prax is right.

LOL - Yea', a "poll" on AFF would surely represent the teachings of the Bible eh' .


Really, I usually just keep scrolling down when I see your posts - they are incoherent & you don't even believe that the gifts of the Spirit are for the church today (Cessationism Heresy)....& don't you attend a Mennonite "church"?


Typical AFF....

[Disciple4life]

That is how I determine all of my theology is by AFF Polls! What's wrong with that?

Menonites. Gasp!!! They believe in cards and dice!!!

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by rdp

LOL - Yea', a "poll" on AFF would surely represent the teachings of the Bible eh' .

umm, surely better than anyone who would stoop to belittling, yes. although i respect your legal opinion also.

Originally Posted by rdp

Really, I usually just keep scrolling down when I see your posts - they are incoherent & you don't even believe that the gifts of the Spirit are for the church today (Cessationism Heresy)

well, this is not true. i have a gift, and do not doubt that others have similar or different gifts, as the Spirit has bestowed them. I'm not sure that we should all expect to manifest every gift; and of course i find adding on to the end of Acts 2:38 to be it's own type of heresy.

Originally Posted by rdp

....& don't you attend a Mennonite "church"? Typical AFF....

i attended a Mennonite congregation for a time; but I AM the church...more denigrating, that's your best shot? you do not even see how you destroy your position here, and affirm mine--and by extension, in this particular herenow, Sister Alvear's? I know you earnestly love the Lord, even if you've possibly veered into legalism; i am frequently guilty of it myself. i ask you to reconsider There is a time for EVERYTHING...and peace to you.