What Difference Does it Make?? Is this Forum REALLY APOSTOLIC????? - Page 25

Nitehawk013 · #**241** 09-25-2009, 06:12 AM

"Well, how would you like it if women were constantly harping on what men should or shouldn't do? Do you think we have that right?"

I would love it. Personally I get sick of men and women both never getting their feet held to the fire over what is expected of them. As much as I strongly feel wopmen should follow the standards, I feel men should follow them too. I also think men need to quit pretending to be teenagers well into their 30's and start acting like men.

You have no idea how hard I am on men. I think Apostolic men are in many cases a disgrace to the title "man" by the way they behave and refuse to be gentlemen, give honro to the women in their lives, work steady jobs to provide and be fathers instead of spending all their time playing video games or sports with friends.

If men would be the godly men they are supposed to be, then I think women would have a far easier time respecting and "submitting" to their husbands as well as following their wishes when it comes to standards.

MawMaw · #**242** 09-25-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

"Well, how would you like it if women were constantly harping on what men should or shouldn't do? Do you think we have that right?"

I would love it. Personally I get sick of men and women both never getting their feet held to the fire over what is expected of them. As much as I strongly feel wopmen should follow the standards, I feel men should follow them too. I also think men need to quit pretending to be teenagers well into their 30's and start acting like men.

You have no idea how hard I am on men. I think Apostolic men are in many cases a disgrace to the title "man" by the way they behave and refuse to be gentlemen, give honro to the women in their lives, work steady jobs to provide and be fathers instead of spending all their time playing video games or sports with friends.

If men would be the godly men they are supposed to be, then I think women would have a far easier time respecting and "submitting" to their husbands as well as following their wishes when it comes to standards.

DividedThigh · #**243** 09-25-2009, 09:38 AM

i can only speak for me, i am an apostolic, thru and thru, dt

Carpenter · #**244** 09-25-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

"Well, how would you like it if women were constantly harping on what men should or shouldn't do? Do you think we have that right?"

I would love it. Personally I get sick of men and women both never getting their feet held to the fire over what is expected of them. As much as I strongly feel wopmen should follow the standards, I feel men should follow them too. I also think men need to quit pretending to be teenagers well into their 30's and start acting like men.

You have no idea how hard I am on men. I think Apostolic men are in many cases a disgrace to the title "man" by the way they behave and refuse to be gentlemen, give honro to the women in their lives, work steady jobs to provide and be fathers instead of spending all their time playing video games or sports with friends.

If men would be the godly men they are supposed to be, then I think women would have a far easier time respecting and "submitting" to their husbands as well as following their wishes when it comes to standards.

Here is the deal. Men will be men when women decide they are going to give him the respect (whether he deserves it or not, it is a commandment of the Lord) higer than the level of the ministry.

**Pastor Bashing Alert!!*** (for those of you with that stigma)
Husbands will never ever be able to compete with the man you have idealized standing up there delivering the word of God. Frankly, I am sick of the ministry of the church usurping (regardless if it is subconscience or not) the role and leadership of families. There is no room for the pastor in the hiearchy of the family.

The problem becomes when the husband feels compromised by his wife's loyalty to the church and ministry if the husband has a problem with what is going on. All of the sudden the church has driven a wedge smack dab in the middle of the family. It only takes one small insignificant thing for the wife to shift her loyalty to the church over the direction of her Godly husband for things to start unraveling.

Men are to commanded to love their wifes...regardless, women are commanded to respect their husbands...regardless.

KWSS1976 · #**245** 09-25-2009, 10:24 AM

Capenter I know exactly what you are talking about....

*AQuietPlace* · #**246** 09-25-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Carpenter

Here is the deal. Men will be men when women decide they are going to give him the respect (whether he deserves it or not, it is a commandment of the Lord) higer than the level of the ministry.

**Pastor Bashing Alert!!*** (for those of you with that stigma)
Husbands will never ever be able to compete with the man you have idealized standing up there delivering the word of God. Frankly, I am sick of the ministry of the church usurping (regardless if it is subconscience or not) the role and leadership of families. There is no room for the pastor in the hiearchy of the family.

The problem becomes when the husband feels compromised by his wife's loyalty to the church and ministry if the husband has a problem with what is going on. All of the sudden the church has driven a wedge smack dab in the middle of the family. It only takes one small insignificant thing for the wife to shift her loyalty to the church over the direction of her Godly husband for things to start unraveling.

Men are to commanded to love their wifes...regardless, women are commanded to respect their husbands...regardless.

I absolutely agree, Carpenter.

Nitehawk013 · #**247** 09-25-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Here is the deal. Men will be men when women decide they are going to give him the respect (whether he deserves it or not, it is a commandment of the Lord) higer than the level of the ministry.

**Pastor Bashing Alert!!*** (for those of you with that stigma)
Husbands will never ever be able to compete with the man you have idealized standing up there delivering the word of God. Frankly, I am sick of the ministry of the church usurping (regardless if it is subconscience or not) the role and leadership of families. There is no room for the pastor in the hiearchy of the family.

The problem becomes when the husband feels compromised by his wife's loyalty to the church and ministry if the husband has a problem with what is going on. All of the sudden the church has driven a wedge smack dab in the middle of the family. It only takes one small insignificant thing for the wife to shift her loyalty to the church over the direction of her Godly husband for things to start unraveling.

Men are to commanded to love their wifes...regardless, women are commanded to respect their husbands...regardless.

That's good preaching.

I am the preist of my home. My fiance will be my wife. She is my beloved. Flesh of my flesh. No man, pastor or otherwise, has a right to overstep my headship and relationship with her. If she is in sin, then we will deal with it together.

I have seen Pastors call other mens wives into the office and rip them for things without having the husband in th eoffice with them. Thathusband asked me what he should do. I told him Pastor or not, he would have me in his office telling him that if he ever calls my wife aside and rips her again hes going to have me to deal with.

DividedThigh · #**248** 09-25-2009, 10:51 AM

i agree carp, in our house, it is established, the spiritual leader is me, a heavy responsibility, but i accept this calling from god gladly, god, family , church is our pyramid, dt

DividedThigh · #**249** 09-25-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

That's good preaching.

I am the preist of my home. My fiance will be my wife. She is my beloved. Flesh of my flesh. No man, pastor or otherwise, has a right to overstep my headship and relationship with her. If she is in sin, then we will deal with it together.

I have seen Pastors call other mens wives into the office and rip them for things without having the husband in th eoffice with them. Thathusband asked me what he should do. I told him Pastor or not, he would have me in his office telling him that if he ever calls my wife aside and rips her again hes going to have me to deal with.

no pastor with half a brain would go into an office with another mans wife without his presence, that is a ticket to disaster, dt

Baron1710 · #**250** 09-25-2009, 11:18 AM

I will probably get blasted for this, but here goes...

I don't call the shots at my house, we discuss things and make a decision together.

A proper understanding of Ephesians is mutual submission, just back up one verse and you will see that. The command to wives seems to be saying that the women there had a problem with submission but the context is one of mutual submission.