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Old 07-21-2017, 07:33 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length

We are body, soul, and spirit. Disease, injury, aging, biology, hormones, and genetics, and conventional medicine effects the body, or soma. The body is how we interface with the physical world though the five senses: taste, touch, smell, sight, and hearing. It is the physical part of you being.

Soul, or psuche, is the psyche. It is the mind. It is the seat of reason, will, memory, and personality. It is your conscious, and subconscious, self. It is, the mind. It interfaces with your body through the brain. Thus if something affects the brain, it can scramble, effect, distort, or hinder the proper function of reason, will, memory, and personality, the soul. Life experiences in body are experienced through the body and are filtered into the soul. Therefore, some experiences can effect the soul, effecting reason, will, emotion, memory, and personality. This is where psychological problems reside. The subconscious is a barrier, and filter for that which is experienced, so that it can be processed and properly interpreted. In this way, it also offers protection to the core of your being...and so this is the interface between your soul (mind) and spirit. Psychiatry and mental health sciences effect the psyche, or soul. This is the deepest science can go. It's still largely uncharted territory, and human tinkering can do much good, or much harm here.

Deeper still, and beyond the scope of all human science, is the spirit. The spirit, or pneuma, is the very, breath of life, the living essence, that is the core of your being. It is the seat of spirituality, intuition, emotions, and God consciousness or awareness. Some call it your, higher self. Paul calls it, your inner man. Metaphysics and spiritual practices are processed through the body (through senses) and soul (mind) to effect spirit. It speaks no human language and largely processes and communicates through symbolism and deeper core emotions. It is your living essence, and contains the overall intent and disposition of your being. Occult practices, demonism, spirituality, religion, can effect the spirit though the energies, symbolism, and ritual they contain. This part of us is where we interface with God and the spiritual realm. It is beyond the reach of doctors, medicine, psychologists, and psychiatry. It is spirit, and so it is only able to be affected by that which is spiritual.

When one is confronted with an issue, it is important to properly determine where the source of the problem resides. We must properly determine if the problem is one of body, soul, or spirit. The Holy Spirit can heal and affect all aspects of our being as He desires. But a proper understanding of our ontology can help us direct how we focus our prayers, counsel, treatments, therapies, or medications.

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If I understand Jesus correctly, there are no apostolic friends, just apostolics on one hand and worldling haters on the other.
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Jesus made it pretty plain - there's wheat, and there's tares. There are no "friends of wheat", the world hated Him and it hates His people. His people follow Him and His apostles (hence "apostolics"), if someone isn't apostolic they aren't following Him. That puts them in the tares category.
Jesus said, "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. (John 15:18-20)

That doesn't mean Apostolics should be indifferent, but that should know there is a difference.


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If the people who aren't following Christ and His apostles in the faith once delivered to the saints are singing your praises and slapping your back, then something's wrong. Not with them, though, cause the world loves its own...
Praise spoken isn’t always praise given. A dog and a rattlesnake have different purposes for flapping their tongues and shaking their tails.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:00 AM
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Then repentance is not necessary to being saved. One can confess Jesus and believe in their heart God raised Him from the dead, while maintaining any number of sins, and still be considered "saved" according to your misrepresentation of the Scripture.
In the moment that one believes, they are repenting. In order to believe the Gospel, you have to realize how utterly sinful you are and how lost you are and will be if you don't believe in the Gospel. If you really believe your life will start to reflect your faith.

One of the problems with OP is that they make repentance a one time thing as they present their gospel.
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In the moment that one believes, they are repenting. In order to believe the Gospel, you have to realize how utterly sinful you are and how lost you are and will be if you don't believe in the Gospel. If you really believe your life will start to reflect your faith.

One of the problems with OP is that they make repentance a one time thing as they present their gospel.
I agree you have to live a life of repentance, its not just a one time thing. What I disagree with the OP's is the push for the " shout" 95% of the services.
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In the moment that one believes, they are repenting. In order to believe the Gospel, you have to realize how utterly sinful you are and how lost you are and will be if you don't believe in the Gospel. If you really believe your life will start to reflect your faith.

One of the problems with OP is that they make repentance a one time thing as they present their gospel.
So, there's more to believing that is not explicitly stated in the verse you provided?

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I agree you have to live a life of repentance, its not just a one time thing. What I disagree with the OP's is the push for the " shout" 95% of the services.
I actually miss that about OP services.

Spiritual Warfare is conducted in praise and worship. Hearing the people of God praising God is so refreshing to me! Seeing people being expressive with their worship through dancing, leaping and even running encourages my faith and my desire to praise and worship the Lord.


If I ever had the thought that someone was trying to "hype up the service", more than likely it was because in that moment my mind was on my situations and problems. Everyday life can make one to become cynical.
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So, there's more to believing that is not explicitly stated in the verse you provided?

Thank you.
The faith that saves us is the faith that changes us.

God knows the intents of our hearts. He knows and I am convinced the individual believer knows whether or not their faith is a saving faith.

There is something supernatural about the Power of the Gospel that changes the lives of the true believer, at the moment of that saving faith. Without the supernatural, Christianity is merely another humanistic philosophy and a waste of time.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:36 AM
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In the moment that one believes, they are repenting. In order to believe the Gospel, you have to realize how utterly sinful you are and how lost you are and will be if you don't believe in the Gospel. If you really believe your life will start to reflect your faith.

One of the problems with OP is that they make repentance a one time thing as they present their gospel.
The devil believes there is one God, and demons know who Jesus is, so are they in a constant mode of repentance?
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One of the problems with OP is that they make repentance a one time thing as they present their gospel.
No OP I know believes that--NOT ONE.
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The devil believes there is one God, and demons know who Jesus is, so are they in a constant mode of repentance?
Demons have no hope of salvation.

We are different from the demons and again, the FAITH that saves us is the FAITH that changes us. Demons cannot ever be saved. They are cursed.

Saving faith is more than mental ascent.
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