Why I'm Against Perry

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I agree with you about Cain. but if he is nominated I will vote for him.

Agreed, I will also.

I am not so sure I agree about Romney. I have issues with him but I think he is by far the best on the economy.

Did you read or listen to Perry's energy plan roll out? You have been so adamant on the global warming hoax and Romney embraces it. How could Romney deal with the EPA when he agrees with them? How could he free up our energy needs? How can he be better on the economy in that aspect?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoB...&feature=share

Perry is very orthodox conservative on a lot of issues and not so much on others. I'm o.k. with his approach to illegal immigration although I oppose citizenship for illegals.

I agree. He is orthodox conservative on a lot of issues and not so much on others. And we would logically have to be okay with his immigration policy. Plyer v. Doe ties the state's hands on the education issue. We are forced to educate them K-12. How could we, conscientously, throw them under the bus after 12th grade? I don't think anyone in Texas, that I know of, is against any Illegal coming here legally and legally pursuing citizenship.

Perry's book is problematic. there are some points there that will be used in a run against Obama.

What points are you talking about? I'd be interested to know.

[Pressing-On]

Ferd,
Here's a good article. Most of the information is pretty well known or at least I thought it was. And, BTW, even though written in 2007, his record hasn't changed.

Romney's economic record

By Andrew Sum and Joseph McLaughlin | July 29, 2007

AS MITT ROMNEY pursues his bid for the presidency, his record as Massachusetts governor will come under scrutiny, including how the state's economy performed during his administration. Our analysis reveals a weak comparative economic performance of the state over the Romney years, one of the worst in the country.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...onomic_record/

More:

Romneycare: The wreckage

Here’s more confirmation of the economic damage Romneycare did in the Bay State. The Boston Herald has the exclusive results of an analysis by Suffolk University’s Beacon Hill Institute.

Romney’s baggage. It is so heavy:

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/09/15...-the-wreckage/

[AreYouReady?]

Bro Gary is the first person I've seen so far who is aware of the NWO. Texx Marrs is very knowledgable about the movers and shakers in the NWO. He has written some fantastic books, like Charlotte Isertby.

If Rick Perry becomes President, it may not be because he is a patriotic, red-blooded christian. It may have more to do in that he is a globalist who attended The Bildeberg Meeting in Istanbul, Turkey back in 2007.

Yes...America is not going to be left out of the one world government. Our constitution is being dismantled bite by bite every day of the year.

Perhaps if Mr. Perry gets to be president, he will be the one who ushers in the North American Union?

[Pressing-On]

Inevitably, Romney Declared ‘Inevitable’

With Herman Cain more than competitive in the polls and Rick Perry flush with a $17 million haul in the last quarter of fundraising, Romney is no more “inevitable” in the real world than my pet cat Snowball. And I would hope that Snowy would have the good sense to keep the inevitability talk among the elites and the media where it belonged and not let it infect the GOP campaign for the nomination.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/inevita...inglepage=true

[CC1]

In my opinion Mitt Rommney is the best debater of them all. Which I am sad to say because I believe he is a moderate to liberal at heart and has only moved to the right because he knows he has to in order to get the Republican nomination. I am also bothered by him being a Morman.

Of course any of the Republicans running would be better than Obama. I subscribe to Martin Luther's philosophy on leadership when he said something to the effect that he would rather have a competent leader who is not a Christian than an incompetent one who was.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

In my opinion Mitt Rommney is the best debater of them all. Which I am sad to say because I believe he is a moderate to liberal at heart and has only moved to the right because he knows he has to in order to get the Republican nomination. I am also bothered by him being a Morman.

Of course any of the Republicans running would be better than Obama. I subscribe to Martin Luther's philosophy on leadership when he said something to the effect that he would rather have a competent leader who is not a Christian than an incompetent one who was.

[Pressing-On]

Texas Rocks! Our Governor rocks!

Comptroller’s Economic Outlook
Updated October 14, 2011

Texas and the nation returned to economic growth in 2010, with the nation increasing its real Gross Domestic Product by 3.0 percent and Texas increasing its real Gross State Product a similar 2.8 percent, with Texas’ economy not affected as severely by the recession as the nation as a whole.

Jobs

The Texas unemployment rate has been at or below the national rate for 56 consecutive months.

Housing

Thus far, Texas has weathered the national real estate crunch without significant damage to property values.



http://www.texasahead.org/economy/outlook.html

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by pelathais

As you have said, you are expressing your own opinions here. The Scripture, however, is more open to various understandings on the subject of self defense and just war.

According to your take (and I admire your take even if I don't entirely agree with it!) Christians can NEVER be political leaders or rulers of any kind. Being a ruler means that one has to take up the sword at times to defend the innocent.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

The politicians and other rulers are said to have been installed in office "of God." Technically, that would also apply to whatever office Gov. Perry holds. If he should run for President and be elected, you owe him your deference as as he's a "minister of God." (The same for President Obama, guys).

Did this also apply to King George of England?

Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

The consequences for refusing to obey could be rather dire.

Do you believe the minutemen on the Concord bridge were terrorists or freedom fighters?

Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

Paul is speaking in general terms here, obviously. Regimes like the Nazis, Stalin, Saddam Hussein and that ilk step across a line when they become a terror to those who are doing good.

How fat is that line? Who gets to determine such nebulous things such as, what is 'a terror,' or what is 'doing good,' or what circumstances unambiguously declare that 'a line' has been crossed?

However, the general principle remains. The "rulers" must have at their disposal a means of inflicting fear or "terror" in the hearts of the evil doers. That means is "the sword," or military violence.

Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

If Gov. Perry (or really, whoever) is elected President, they are a MINISTER OF GOD and bear a sword as a consequence of their ministry.

What if their eligibility or election were fraudulent, yet uncontested? Is that a sign of the hand of God moving in elections, or of general cowardice in the population at large?

[Pressing-On]

Still supporting my Governor! Great job at the debate last night, Governor Perry!!

Recapping the GOP debate: Mitt's snit, Cain's crash, Perry's push

But then, these things are contests—largely political sporting events. So if a winner must be crowned, make it Rick Perry, who showed some fire in his willingness to go toe-to-toe with Mitt Romney, whose aura of inevitability waxed and waned during the debate. Perry was just about the only candidate who has reason to smile today.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,4264476.story

[Michael The Disciple]

Well so far Im for Perry. I dont think he has won any of the debates but that dont mean he would not be a good President. Theres more to ruling the United States than being a good talker.