Where do the lost spend eternity? Really!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Hi Timmy ....

I think God may have already left you OR you left Him (one or the other or both) ... to reject His power and anointing in your life. Something's terribly wrong for sure.

Thanks for your concern, Felicity, but it isn't necessary.

1. God hasn't left me. I know this from His Word. He promised He would never leave me nor forsake me.

2. I have not left God. I know this from my own faith. I am following the path He has for me.

3. I have not rejected His power or anointing. I just have a very different view of what those are, now.

To go into more detail would probably be a violation of the rules. It would look like "tearing down Apostolic doctrine". If I've already stepped over that line, I apologize. It was almost always in response to questions asked of me, but maybe I should have kept my mouth shut!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Timmy

By the way, what is your answer to the question: if I really did experience the baptism of the HG with true tongues, and I now reject it and tongues, what would that mean? Do you think God would leave me?

No, it does not, God is bigger than all you doubts, fears and questions.

He is not put off by your inquiries, He will still be there when you finally tire of the questions and continue to seek Him with all your heart.

You see He is a loving Heavenly Father that has your best interest first and foremost in His heart.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Thanks for your concern, Felicity, but it isn't necessary.

1. God hasn't left me. I know this from His Word. He promised He would never leave me nor forsake me.

2. I have not left God. I know this from my own faith. I am following the path He has for me.

3. I have not rejected His power or anointing. I just have a very different view of what those are, now.

To go into more detail would probably be a violation of the rules. It would look like "tearing down Apostolic doctrine". If I've already stepped over that line, I apologize. It was almost always in response to questions asked of me, but maybe I should have kept my mouth shut!

I didn't post out of concern, really. Just to answer your question, is all.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I didn't post out of concern, really. Just to answer your question, is all.

I see.

And it was hypothetical, after all. If I once had the real thing and now reject it, etc.

So, it that the key? What if I'm right and never had the "real" thing? Is that a whole different situation? I may still "get it" some day, but if it was "real", I am now doomed?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I see.

And it was hypothetical, after all. If I once had the real thing and now reject it, etc.

So, it that the key? What if I'm right and never had the "real" thing? Is that a whole different situation? I may still "get it" some day, but if it was "real", I am now doomed?

Oh, so the question was hypothetical. Has the whole thread been that, too?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Oh, so the question was hypothetical. Has the whole thread been that, too?

thats what I've been wondering.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Oh, so the question was hypothetical. Has the whole thread been that, too?

Alot of that going on.: amen

[King's Child]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

This is why I choose to live my life to the fullest now... hell seems inevitable... (although the ceasing to exist theory that some people subscribe to sounds much more pleasant than an eternal sizzle). I believe it is impossible for anyone to make it to heaven based on what I was taught growing up... unless you are lucky enough to die within nano-seconds of speaking in tongues (so you don't have time to sin before you die).

This is why I find it easier to just accept that I am going to hell rather than spend my life in fear of going there.

Are for real. Have you really just accepted that you are going to Hell.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Oh, so the question was hypothetical. Has the whole thread been that, too?

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

thats what I've been wondering.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Alot of that going on.: amen

But seriously, even a hypothetical question is a real question. Or can be. That was my intent for the poll itself (but we don't need to rehash that! ), as well as the question in my post above (I think Praxeas got that one started, actually).

Jesus said "I will never leave you nor forsake you."

To whom did He say that?

The believer, the disciple - which he further defined as one who "continues" in His "word" and one who "know[s] the truth."

One who is not a believer, or one who does not continue in His word, or one who does not "know the truth"... is not one who can claim any rational basis for thinking he or she is a disciple, a believer, and thus has no rational basis for thinking Jesus' promise about not leaving or forsaking them, applies to their situation.

Furthermore, Jesus specifically identified people who would believe and make the claim that He is their lord, that they have done many wonderful things in His name... and yet he Himself denies ever knowing them at all.

Finally, the book of Hebrews states in chapter 6 that those who have tasted the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and who nevertheless "fall away", cannot be "renewed unto repentance".

The bible is full of warnings concerning false doctrine, false brethren/false converts, and even believers who make "shipwreck" of the faith, whose faith gets "overthrow[n]", who fall into gross error and sin... and whose fate is destruction.