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Old 05-10-2010, 05:43 PM
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That advocate wouldn't justify continual sin.
Man, you are a constant downer.
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I agree. But, I also believe that not all sins are easy to walk away from - especially sexual sin or a strong attraction. You have to keep coming back to the Father - no matter how long it takes and no matter how many times you have already said you were sorry - keep coming back and confessing your sin, asking Him to help you overcome it.
According to TS, those people are doomed.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:46 PM
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Why are you so against role playing? Not getting it. All you've argued is that "it's not the only way to spice things up." No one has suggested otherwise or disagreed with that. So what's your beef with believers participating in this in the marriage bed?
I have no beef against believers participating in whatever they have agreed upon. You can look back and see that I have supported that.

My issue is that you or anyone else pushing your view as something I must agree with and practice in my home.

We may also be having a misunderstanding as to what we define as "role-playing". Randy thinks it also includes flirting. As I would have to go into detail, I'm not explaining my interpretation.
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According to TS, those people are doomed.
I think that TS would agree that someone coming of out certain sins could, possibly, be a process. Depends on the person and how deep they are into it.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:51 PM
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I have no beef against believers participating in whatever they have agreed upon. You can look back and see that I have supported that.

My issue is that you or anyone else pushing your view as something I must agree with and practice in my home.

We may also be having a misunderstanding as to what we define as "role-playing". Randy thinks it also includes flirting. As I would have to go into detail, I'm not explaining my interpretation.
No one has said you must practice it in your home. haha.

Agree with? Do you not agree with it? See, now I'm confused by your statements which appear to be contradictory.

Sexual roleplaying is a form of roleplaying in which partners take parts in a drama with a strong sexual theme. These might include a teacher and pupil scenario, or an employer and maid, boss and secretary, hooker and john, etc... besides other scenarios. These are also common in BDSM. (WIKIPEDIA)

There, now we have a definition. I don't see how flirting is role-playing. But that's just me.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:54 PM
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I think that TS would agree that someone coming of out certain sins could, possibly, be a process. Depends on the person and how deep they are into it.
And then we could take this whole conversation back to the subject of Grace, which we won't. But this shows how different people with differing perspectives on grace approach this topic differently.

TS probably also thinks they have attained perfection.

A guy with a habit of thinking about a supermodel, or a gal that thinks about Brad Pitt for a moment during sex... on their way to the hot place? How much progress do I need to show I am "in the process?" How can I be assured here that He will keep his promise of salvation to me?
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No one has said you must practice it in your home. haha.

Agree with? Do you not agree with it? See, now I'm confused by your statements which appear to be contradictory.

Sexual roleplaying is a form of roleplaying in which partners take parts in a drama with a strong sexual theme. These might include a teacher and pupil scenario, or an employer and maid, boss and secretary, hooker and john, etc... besides other scenarios. These are also common in BDSM. (WIKIPEDIA)

There, now we have a definition. I don't see how flirting is role-playing. But that's just me.
Okay, thanks for the definition.

I will be plain since we are going around in circles. Flirting and beautiful lingerie excite me. Dressing up in a costume when it's not Halloween does not. I would feel that he wanted someone else if he asked me to dress up as a schoolgirl or maid, etc.. I don't care what anyone else wants to do, it's not what I want nor need to do.

Not saying that my husband and I don't argue, but I've never met anyone like him in other areas and he suits me just fine. I'd be hard pressed to think I would ever find anyone else that would suit me as well.

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And then we could take this whole conversation back to the subject of Grace, which we won't. But this shows how different people with differing perspectives on grace approach this topic differently.

TS probably also thinks they have attained perfection.

A guy with a habit of thinking about a supermodel, or a gal that thinks about Brad Pitt for a moment during sex... on their way to the hot place? How much progress do I need to show I am "in the process?" How can I be assured here that He will keep his promise of salvation to me?
You don't know what TS thinks until he types what he thinks.

I think we all know how far we can take something like that. If I thought of Brad Pitt when I'm intimate with my husband, I'd have to be stupid to think there is nothing wrong with that. If I find myself doing something like that, I need to ask God to help me stop doing it. I think you would have to train your thoughts over and over until you stopped.

We also cannot allow condemnation to overtake us either. We have to know that we must keep trying until we have overcome the thing. We just have to keep trying.
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Grace isn't a ticket to sin or carnality. Grace teaches to deny ungodliness. True grace is active in our lives.
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Why are you so against role playing? Not getting it. All you've argued is that "it's not the only way to spice things up." No one has suggested otherwise or disagreed with that. So what's your beef with believers participating in this in the marriage bed?
Wow, it is the end of the world as we know it.
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