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[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

At the end of the day, in a public forum where point-of-view discussions are what this place was made for, do what's best for you. Hopefully we all challenge each other to think and use the ol' noggin. I count on people here for that... not that I or they always deliver

In my very unhumble opinion JT adaquetly answered your questions pages ago Just wanted to get that out there.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Jeffrey, are you stuck?

I have a son who has a "condition", you might say, that gets him "stuck." Once he gets his heart set on something....it might be a toy, a certain food, money, to fix something, whatever...we've learned to just go ahead and get it over with because he just can't move on until it's resolved. We always joke that he's "stuck."

Oh, my goodness, I have a son *exactly* like that!

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by jfrog

In my very unhumble opinion JT adaquetly answered your questions pages ago Just wanted to get that out there.

Uhhhhh......yep!

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Uhhhhh......yep!

Obviously, it wasn't satisfactory for me. He was evasively giving me responses. But whatever As you were.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Obviously, it wasn't satisfactory for me. He was evasively giving me responses. But whatever As you were.

Are you seriously going to start this again today? FOR REALS!?!?!?! Man I can't expound on something that I have expounded on. If you don't like the answers get over it cause there is nothing else I can say.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Are you seriously going to start this again today? FOR REALS!?!?!?! Man I can't expound on something that I have expounded on. If you don't like the answers get over it cause there is nothing else I can say.

asked and answered, move on

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

You seem quite amped up. WOW. Simmer down now! I am going to try that too. You are pushing it.

Look fact is that you asked the same question over and over and I answered in knid every time. But each time I answered you tried to dig deeper like there was some underlying issue or something. That is a conspiracy theorist mind set if I have ever seen one.

You are WAY out of line with saying that what my answers 'may show a slight hypocrisy'. You don't know me. You act like you do know me or something. But NEVER come on here and say anyone is being hypocritcal in anything like you are the authority here. That kinda talk is not welcome when you are talking to me or my friends on here.....you understand? FYI I am calm and not real upset. Just know that you don't need to do that stuff here. Just from now on don't call me a hypocrite or we will have problems that will result in a talk with the admins. I am cool with debating this on out with you just stay clear of that.

I sensed that you were trying to be sly and trip me up with your weak talk and weaker scenerios. I don't mean to accuse anyone on anything. But it seemed that you have been trying to trip me up the whole time like I will vasilate from my point of view or my ethics.

If you think that it is hard to communicate with me then dumb it down and talk to me. It seems you are trying to come with crafty ways to try and turn this aroung and see me chasing my tail. Ain't going to happen. Also I am not paranoid I am anoid. Nothing you are saying to me is making any sense. So if you want to quit talking about this issue I am cool with that. We can meet and debate other issues down the road. Ball is in your court. Seriously I am cool with this but you don't have to play games. I am straight forward, no side stepping....trust if I answer the question that my answer is the TOTAL answer nothing left out. Clear?????

First of all, I was saying, pending your response, your position could be hypocritical -- or, contradicting itself. I never got that far with you. The defensiveness prevented any real discussion. It has nothing with "trusting" your response. Have you never been in a discussion where the "why" question from the professor dug at your response to get deeper. Not to uncover "secret mysteries" or to "stump us up," but to help further understand your surface response.

Yes, I was digging deeper. That's not a thing of conspirators. That's a thing called conversation. I was trying to get to the heart of the matter. You didn't "feel" it was a good idea. You "felt" obliged to your friend. What was missing was a reason.

You only prove your defensiveness with things like "weak talk" and "weak scenarios" and "trying to trip me up" rhetoric which you've said since the beginning. Seriously. It's like talking to a 2-year old. "I know you are but what am I" -- conversation/discussion goes nowhere. More I try to dig it out, the more suspicious and paranoid you get. I'll give it to you that my examples and scenarios weren't the best. I was trying...

Apparently others seemed to understand you fine. But feeling obliged to a friend for something that is not a problem doesn't seem right. I made that point with a rather crass example.

The true "conspiracy" cries here have come not from me but against the guy scared nervous about somsone "changing his mind," "getting tripped up,"... I mean come on... to walk away from my last response that I called you a hypocrite is silly. Is this still an intellectual discussion????? Must all things be qualified so your little ego doesn't get harmed?

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Are you seriously going to start this again today? FOR REALS!?!?!?! Man I can't expound on something that I have expounded on. If you don't like the answers get over it cause there is nothing else I can say.

We both like the last word it seems

Hey Sam... I don't have to move on. If you don't like it, skip right on along.

Your "expounding" hasn't really been expounding. The more an "expounding" aka "digging" is asked for, the more paranoid you get like someone is up to something.

A response is not an answer. Remember that.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

One thing I know is that we have been entertaining not sure we have been enlightening at all though. I will take this opportunity to say to everyone that is reading that if I have offended anyone I am sorry. All I can say is that those people on here that know me and have for years know that I am who I am not matter what. I have talked about some VERY personal stuff on here and I feel that the people on here are part family part friends. Sometime you don't always see eye to eye that is what I like. This place would be boring if we all thought and felt the same about everything.

I am a One-stepper, but don't have any issues with three steppers...I go to a three stepper church. At the end of the day we are all part of a Big Network of a family. Jeffrey is my brother in Christ. We don't agree on this issue but it's cool. I can't speak for him but I am here to have fun and once I stop having it then I won't be back......I am here for a while I am sure. Good night all or good morning if you are reading this after you have slept.

Why are you apologizing? This is what I don't get?

It was almost as if you were personally on trial here.

Objective discussion. Topic: plagiarism. Your response... please expound so we can see how this applies. "I feel it's not important" usually follows with an follow-up that makes sense. My follow-ups are seen as interrogation and "traps."

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

First of all, I was saying, pending your response, your position could be hypocritical -- or, contradicting itself. I never got that far with you. The defensiveness prevented any real discussion. It has nothing with "trusting" your response. Have you never been in a discussion where the "why" question from the professor dug at your response to get deeper. Not to uncover "secret mysteries" or to "stump us up," but to help further understand your surface response.

Yes, I was digging deeper. That's not a thing of conspirators. That's a thing called conversation. I was trying to get to the heart of the matter. You didn't "feel" it was a good idea. You "felt" obliged to your friend. What was missing was a reason.

You only prove your defensiveness with things like "weak talk" and "weak scenarios" and "trying to trip me up" rhetoric which you've said since the beginning. Seriously. It's like talking to a 2-year old. "I know you are but what am I" -- conversation/discussion goes nowhere. More I try to dig it out, the more suspicious and paranoid you get. I'll give it to you that my examples and scenarios weren't the best. I was trying...

Apparently others seemed to understand you fine. But feeling obliged to a friend for something that is not a problem doesn't seem right. I made that point with a rather crass example.

The true "conspiracy" cries here have come not from me but against the guy scared nervous about somsone "changing his mind," "getting tripped up,"... I mean come on... to walk away from my last response that I called you a hypocrite is silly. Is this still an intellectual discussion????? Must all things be qualified so your little ego doesn't get harmed?

BOLDED...... Was it ever? j/k ..... I'm sorry! Hey guys the horse is really dead! DEAD! Stinky dead!

I'm tired of this discussion! Of course, for some reason, I keep coming back to read more! HELP! It's a conspiracy, "I'm getting tripped up", I'm stuck! Somebody help me!

Been Thinkin