UPC - "Apostolic" Wesleyan Holiness Standards

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Berk .. you probably don't want to ask ...

Actually, I don't think AB was implying it was a "ransom" or any such thing. I am not even sure they asked him to give them anything.

[Bishop1]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I bolded the part about jewelry not being preached until the 60's. This is not true I don't car who says it. It was preach in east Texas in the 20's.

HOLEheartlessnes :

Read My Post Agin !

I was posting regarding the PCI View
in Tenn, Miss, Ala & Georgia -

The UPCI WAS NOT FORMED
UNTIL THE MID FORTIES -

The PAJC were mostly anti jewelry -

Under the GOSS Leadership views on
Holiness was not harped upon -
The Morgan Leadership views on Holiness
propogated the other side of the merger -

AS FAR AS THE TEXAS VIEWS GO

Bishop Kilgore & His Son Elder James Kilgore
ALWAYS PREACHED AGAINST RINGS
BUT
What About The Church's Current Pastor ?
{ The Younger Bro Kilgore }




Bishop1

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What would a "liberal" suit consist of? Capri pants and a jacket with the sleeves torn out?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You would have to know me to know! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ask RRFORD!

rrford?

Are there liberal and conservative suits?

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by rrford

Actually, I don't think AB was implying it was a "ransom" or any such thing. I am not even sure they asked him to give them anything.

This is turning out too funny - we all think something different than what the poster is actually thinking! LOL

RRFORD - You know - If they help you with finances to build a church and then you disaffiliate - you have to pay the money back and yes - sadly - they did ask for it. But I wanted out so bad that at that point - it did not matter - I paid it gladly and it made us all happy!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Ugh. That's a yucky color. Looks like a suit my Dad had from the 70's...in a color he called "salmon."

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Ugh. That's a yucky color. Looks like a suit my Dad had from the 70's...in a color he called "salmon."

I couldn't find any of the greens and pastels that the charismatics wore in the 90's.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I miss Pappadeaux.

We have at least one of them here in the Cincinnati area.
There is one just a couple of miles from my house, near Bro. Paslay's church. I've only been at the restaurant once. Seemed a little "pricey" to me. Anyone coming to the Cincinnati area and wants to go there, contact me. Depending on the time of the month (near pension check or near social security check) I might be able to buy your meal.

[ThePastorsCoach]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

rrford?

Are there liberal and conservative suits?

MissBrattified,
I was raised in the Black Church and greatly influenced by the Black Church - My Bishop G. E. Patterson just passed away last week and was a Godly Giant of a Man! Sorry - just had to say it!
Anyway - The churches I Oversee and Cover in our Network are predominately Black - actually - Church Alive of Atlanta is 70% Caribbean.
In saying that - I dress in more of a black style and have always done so from my teen years. Baggy Suit pants and big shoulder Suits with long Suit jackets. Most of my UPC buddies always thought I was trying to out dress them or be flashy - it was just what I had always done. Most of my suits now are custom made but still in the same BIG SUIT fashion. I love to be comfortable in a suit!

[Bishop1]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Reminds me of the time -
A popular Pastor and Presbyter/Board Member at the time came to me at a District Campmeeting and said (pointing at my small cuff links) - "WE DON'T WEAR CUFF LINKS HERE IN GEORGIA!" I said - "Oh yes - WE do!" Again - he pointed his finger in my chest as about 10 men stood around and said - "I SAID - WE DO NOT WEAR CUFF LINKS HERE IN GEORGIA!"

I just laughed and said - "I SAID - OH YES WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DO - INCLUDING YOU!"

He said - "What are you talking about - I only wear the silk ones and have never wore gold or silver ones!"
I said - "Oh yes you have and that is exactly why I am wearing these - because YOU set the precedent for wearing them!"
He was so shocked and denied EVER wearing them. "Well - I NEVER" he proclaimed!

I reminded him that when I came to Georgia with the UPC - I did not wear cuff links. They wore them for the most part in UPC - Florida along with other jewelry.
So I did not wear them in Georgia - but then I went to a church to preach and this NOW finger pointer - he was the presbyter and lo and behold when we were praying at the altar with people - he took his coat off and he had big ole CUFF LINKS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never said a word about it until he jumped ME for having some on!

He said sheepishly, "Well - I did - but I had forgot mine and had to borrow some from the pastor and that was all he had." But he said - "I still don't believe in them!" LOL

And that ladies and gentlemen is one reason I wear big gawdy GOLD cuff links today - I was persuaded and influenced by EXAMPLE - by a genuine Son of the Superintendent, Preacher in the most Conservative "Apostolic" churches and campmeetings, Presbyter, Pastor and former "friend"!

ROTF,LOL

"Bro Wayne" ;

I can also tell you
a few gooduns about
our mutual friend

" Bro Carl " !



Bishop1