Forum is Ex-Pentecostal??

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by CC1

Tim,


Of course the UPCers who started AFF wanted it to be from an orthodox viewpoint with dissenters chiming in. That is and was no secret.

This was always supposed to be aforum coming from the Orthodox old time Oneness Pentecostal perspective but one that allowed discussion of that orthodoxy in an open manner.

Now HERE is where we disagree vehemently.

This forum was founded with the idea the discussion was to be rigged and anything that the gang in charge didn't like would be censored under "preacher bashing."

That "doctrinal" statement sounds like the original FCF and we KNOW this forum wasn't anything like that one.

That willingness to allow open discussion was based on the assumption of maturity in the posters and that they would do so in a respectful manner.

When the orthodoxy got trashed in a crude manner repeatedly and without restraint of course they abandoned the place.

Now HERE is where I think you're living in a dream world.

They "abandoned the place" when they realized that trying to rig the board and promote their agenda with censorhip and heavy-handed moderating wouldn't work.

Orthodoxy wasn't "trashed in a crude manner" any more here than on FCF.

People who couldn't meet the arguments got frustrated and LABELED it trashing.

AND this "crude manner" stuff applied to the cons moreso than the reprobates and heathens.

If you are honest with yourself you KNOW that.

Dan posts a bit more than some.

But to blame him for "singlehandedly" destroying a forum and running off a bunch of good people who otherwise would have kissed the liberals on the cheek every morning is laughable, absurd, comical and the biggest myth I've ever heard in over four years of posting and reading pentecostal-themed message boards.

[SDG]

CC1 ... we will agree to disagree on this issue.

I make the following two observations as my last words w/ you about this ... until it's brought up again.

1. You are enamored w/ a forum FCF that has gone and past. Your feelings of nostalgia, as in common, may be blurring you to the realities of the past and presents situations. I lurked at NFCF ... and that drag outs there were second to none.

2. The former owners of this forum had an agenda of censorship and coersion. Many of us saw it rear it's head on many issues ... and other breaches of confidentiality proved that this was not the forum of Yohe ....

3. There was a blatant double standard that you have helped to perpetuate. The cons in the form of vigilante justice and wolf-pack mentality ostracized and ridiculed divergent thought for years .... See Posse and pulpits.

You, like our European allies (France) would rather appease these attacks ... for the sake of a fictional utopia.

Some of us decided to step up and face these accusations of having false doctrine, being ungodly and compromisers.

PP for all his antagonism towards my views ... would have to admit that this agenda even affected him personally.

Nuff said.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

Dan posts a bit more than some.

But to blame him for "singlehandedly" destroying a forum and running off a bunch of good people who otherwise would have kissed the liberals on the cheek every morning is laughable, absurd, comical and the biggest myth I've ever heard in over four years of posting and reading pentecostal-themed message boards.

I wasn't going to get involved in this topic, but I want to make one point. It was no secret that MB and I were not friends, but I can say one thing with all his warts - even though he was rude and cut people down he would never have made this statement about a Pentecostal style of worship.

I am ticked off about this post!

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...8&postcount=75

That's the big difference in Dan and MB. You can be rude, but don't mock anything that someone is doing or how they respond to a move of God!

I don't care if someone is more emotional than they need to be, in some cases, it isn't right and the above statement is not funny, IMHO!

[Rico]

Jim Yohe's forum is long gone. Any attempt to recreate it, I don't care where in the spectrum you find yourself, is going to fail miserably.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by Rico

I think I hear Grasshopper headed this way! Get ready to discuss healthcare!!

hahahhaahhhha

[timlan2057]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I wasn't going to get involved in this topic, but I want to make one point. It was no secret that MB and I were not friends, but I can say one thing with all his warts - even though he was rude and cut people down he would never have made this statement about a Pentecostal style of worship.

I am ticked off about this post!

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...8&postcount=75

That's the big difference in Dan and MB. You can be rude, but don't mock anything that someone is doing or how they respond to a move of God!

I don't care if someone is more emotional than they need to be, in some cases, it isn't right and the above statement is not funny, IMHO!

PO, I got a feeling that Dan wouldn't have done a thing or two MB did.

Now we're grasping at straws.

DA grew up in this and whatever he posts, he posts from the perspective of "been there, done that."

So this business of picking out posts and saying "So-and-so would NEVER have said THAT" is about as productive as - uh ... spitting up a rope.

[rgcraig]

This is a stupid thread.

There are probaby under 10 people on here that are actually non or ex-Pentecostal.

What a small view of Pentecostalism if you think this board is made up of a majority of ex-Pentecostal people.

Well, I'm 25 pages behind, so just ignore my ignorance of what this thread is about.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

PO, I got a feeling that Dan wouldn't have done a thing or two MB did.

Now we're grasping at straws.

DA grew up in this and whatever he posts, he posts from the perspective of "been there, done that."

So this business of picking out posts and saying "So-and-so would NEVER have said THAT" is about as productive as - uh ... spitting up a rope.

Definitely a hit and run post by PO

If she read the thread in entirely she would see the context of that post ... and my thoughts on being slain the spirit and speaking w/ reverence about what is of God .... furthermore I was posting about the picture as it would appear to an outsider.

PO go back read the thread in it's entirety and be honest.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

PO, I got a feeling that Dan wouldn't have done a thing or two MB did.

Now we're grasping at straws.

DA grew up in this and whatever he posts, he posts from the perspective of "been there, done that."

So this business of picking out posts and saying "So-and-so would NEVER have said THAT" is about as productive as - uh ... spitting up a rope.

"Been there,done that" doesn't qualify a person to make fun of and disqualify a person's response to the God they serve. It ain't his business.

I can ignore rude and condescending, mostly () but the other is unforgiveable in my book.

If you don't want to dance, then don't make fun of people who do. I don't care if they express themselves like a spasmodic chicken. And if they want to fall out, let them!

I used to attend a Baptist church - I ain't Baptist no mo!

Okay, I feel better for pointing that out. End of discussion for me.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Definitely a hit and run post by PO

If she read the thread in entirely she would see the context of that post ... and my thoughts on being slain the spirit and speaking w/ reverence about what is of God .... furthermore I was posting about the picture as it would appear to an outsider.

PO go back read the thread in it's entirety and be honest.

I read the WHOLE ENTIRE THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!