Hell Bound? Says who???

[Brother Price]

I thought God called us to preach the Gospel, not doctrine. Yeesh, but then again, folks who are stuck in their religion want to preach doctrine, not the Gospel.

[Light]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light

Do you go to Kilgore's church or did you?

I did. Do you know me?

The reason I ask is one can know more of what a man believes when you hear from his people. When a man stands at general conference he usually tells people what they want to hear right out of the manual. To really know the truth about what he teaches listen to his people.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

I thought God called us to preach the Gospel, not doctrine. Yeesh, but then again, folks who are stuck in their religion want to preach doctrine, not the Gospel.

2 John 9

9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
KJV


Rom 6:17-18

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
KJV



Doctrine sounds mighty important.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Light

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The reason I ask is one can know more of what a man believes when you hear from his people. When a man stands at general conference he usually tells people what they want to hear right out of the manual. To really know the truth about what he teaches listen to his people.

Don't go by me on what my pastor believes or teaches. The Bible says seek out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling. I have to answer for myself. I don't agree 100% with any person. I don't think that makes me unique either.

[Brother Price]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

2 John 9

9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
KJV


Rom 6:17-18

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
KJV



Doctrine sounds mighty important.

Teach doctrine... yes. Preach the Gospel... yes.

[ChristopherHall]

So I want an answer....did God send William Tyndale to Hell?

Yes, no, or leaving the judgment to God?

Was there a an Apostolic church in Tyndale's day? Who were they?

Is there a distinctly Apostolic Bible translation?

Explain why God would use Hell bound infidels to preserve, translate, and propagate His Word.

Should we use a translation translated by Trinitarians in honor of the Trinitarian "King James"?

[Light]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

So I want an answer....did God send William Tyndale to Hell?
Yes, no, or leaving the judgment to God?

Was there a an Apostolic church in Tyndale's day? Who were they?

Is there a distinctly Apostolic Bible translation?

Explain why God would use Hell bound infidels to preserve, translate, and propagate His Word.

Should we use a translation translated by Trinitarians in honor of the Trinitarian "King James"?

No God didn't send him to hell, people chose to go there because they do not obey the plan of salvation.

The rest of your post is foolishness.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Light

No God didn't send him to hell, people chose to go there because they do not obey the plan of salvation.

William Tyndale's understanding of truth was clouded with tradition. However, he understood the truths of repentance, the necessity of baptism (though he didn't understand the details as we have understood them), and we have little knowledge of his spiritual experiences with the Holy Ghost in prayer. Therefore I feel it best not to make a judgment on the man's salvation.

The rest of your post is foolishness.

So you trust these Hell bound Trinitarians to translate the Bible you use? That's not a foolish question. If these men were indeed Hell bound and had no chance at salvation I can't trust the King James Bible because such men would be prone to error and deception. According to your reasoning, the King James Bible, and any Bible translated by those who's eyes are blinded by error, is potentially a poisoned spring. After all Jesus said,

Matthew 7:17
"Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit."

Do you mean to tell me corrupt men void of all truth and salvation brought forth a Bible translation that can be trusted?????

If we are the only ones who have tasted of salvation and the light of revelation we need a distinctly Apostolic translation of the Scriptures for the Bible we currently have can't be trusted. The beautiful heritage of the King James Bible is a farce of blinded men and all who died to preserve the Bible's majesty and ensure it's propagation in English have died in a fool's errand.

How do you interpret this text?

Luke 12:47-48
47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

I believe that for the sake of continuity and faithful trust of Scripture we better serve the Apostolic Truth by allowing God to be the final judge of these men's salvation. We should neither affirm the idea of their salvation neither condemn them to Hell. Allow God alone to be their judge. Our focus should be on the fullness of God's revealed truth...the Gospel of Jesus Christ as preached and practiced by the Apostles, exemplified in Acts 2:38.

We are the beneficiaries of the Reformation and Biblical scholarship. We are the Revival the Church had been praying for as it languished in thousands of years of tradition. We are presently the culmination of what all of Christian history has been pressing toward. This is the "Latter Rain".

Deuteronomy 11:14
"That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil."

Acts 2:17
17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Step by step Jesus restored his bride from Hell's Catholic apostasy, the gates of Hell did no prevail!

Isaiah 28:10
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

For the:

Lutheran Church - AD 1517: Saw - Justification by faith...

Presbyterian Church - Ad 1536: Saw - Communion as a Memorial...

Congregational Church - AD 1580: Saw - Separation of Church and State...

Baptist Church - AD 1609: Saw - Water Baptism by Immersion...

Methodist Church - AD 1739: Saw - Personal Holiness...

Christian Church - AD 1820: Saw - Baptism for Remission of Sins...

Trinitarian Pentecostalism - AD 1900: Saw - Baptism of the Holy Ghost - Evidence: Speaking with Tongues as in Acts chapter 2 on the day of Pentecost...

AD 1914 Invasion of Apostles Doctrine from 33 A.D.! - The revelation of God in Christ (ONENESS), and the truth of baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ by immersion for the remission of sins!!!

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

So I want an answer....did God send William Tyndale to Hell?

Yes, no, or leaving the judgment to God?

Was there a an Apostolic church in Tyndale's day? Who were they?

Is there a distinctly Apostolic Bible translation?

Explain why God would use Hell bound infidels to preserve, translate, and propagate His Word.

Should we use a translation translated by Trinitarians in honor of the Trinitarian "King James"?

Oh how these questions are being avoided...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Oh how these questions are being avoided...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

When I see an Apostolic condemn all comers to Hell using a King James Bible I can think of only one word...ungrateful. They hate and condemn the very heritage of the Bible translation they love and cherish. The Jehovah's Witnesses used the same logic in their condemnation of all Christians before them, but they had the guts to produce their own translation. That's where this logic leads if consistently followed.