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Old 03-13-2007, 12:54 PM
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I have no problem with his words. You, however, need to learn about deception in this area. And you have yet ignored important questions.

It appears you don't want to hear, and so I will respond no further to you on this matter. Those of us concerned with the post were not withholding prayer, compassion, or ministering to those in need. But you can continue to believe otherwise, it won't change what is true.
Questions ... what questions ... you mean you're rhetorical questions .... Burnedtoo be concerned ... and continue not to withhold
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:58 PM
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I have no problem with his words. You, however, need to learn about deception in this area. And you have yet ignored important questions.

It appears you don't want to hear, and so I will respond no further to you on this matter. Those of us concerned with the post were not withholding prayer, compassion, or ministering to those in need. But you can continue to believe otherwise, it won't change what is true.
I would be genuinely surprised if this were not true. Just because one is cautious or concerned there might be a hidden agenda does not make them bad or less compassionate.

Jesus forgave but He also admonished to "go and sin no more".
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:01 PM
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I would be genuinely surprised if this were not true. Just because one is cautious or concerned there might be a hidden agenda does not make them bad or less compassionate.

Jesus forgave but He also admonished to "go and sin no more".
everybody likes part one...part two? not so much....as witnessed by this thread.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:06 PM
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everybody likes part one...part two? not so much....as witnessed by this thread.
Hey, if you continue in your sins you will surely die. Sad but true!
The GOOD NEWS is that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us, not the we could be forgiven and continue in sin, but that we could have a new start.

That new creature in Christ Jesus thing needs a second and third look.
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Hey, if you continue in your sins you will surely die. Sad but true!
The good news is that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us, not the we could be forgiven and continue in sin, but that we could have a new start.

That new creature in Christ Jesus thing needs a second and third look.
This is GOOD NEWS.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:08 PM
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This is GOOD NEWS.
I edited it just for you.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:33 PM
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Read closer, Daniel.



The bolded area is a key. He appears to be stating that gay minsiters who do not have the Holy Spirit and authority of Jesus' name are an obstacle- not that they were gay.

I didn't get that from your quote as all.

Do you not know of all the gay Pentecostal and even Oneness Penetcostal (run by former UPC ministers) churches?

You obviously haven't dealt with deception in this area. If you would stop and take some time, you could learn something from the posters who are pointing out the deception and sharing things they experienced.

I am also concerned of the AOL statement about all the gay people in the churches that are ministering. Could this man have been deceptive with Pastor Kilgore while he was there and was he actually operating a pro-homosexual lifesyle while appearing to be against it? He said he's been a gay minister for awhile.
Where did he say this? Not in the above post you quoted.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:37 PM
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Where did he say this? Not in the above post you quoted.
In his AOL post I quoted several pages back:

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What you do in the dark while come to the light. It's ironic that the ones who take such a strong stance on an issue are the ones who hide and do the very things that they oppose. I'm a gay christian man and I've dealt with many pastors and evangelists who spewed their hatred upon gays and lesbians. After years of my involvement in the ministry, I can you that many, many homosexuals are in ministry in some of the most conservative churches. It's time in America to focus on what God really is and that is love. Shame on those who don't demonstrate the very priniciple of love thy neighbor. All those wolves in sheeps' clothing while be exposed! Beware Jerry Falwell and all you other hateful ministers of another god!
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:38 PM
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In his AOL post I quoted several pages back:



Found here at: http://journals.aol.com/thefeedblog/...rom-grace/2415
Thank you I wondered where everyone was getting that.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:56 PM
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I have to agree with CS. Chosen was deceitfull in his post. He considers himself gay and in a right relationship with Jesus. This is a contradiction and he has shown disrespect to those in this forum by lying to us

The church I attend would welcome a person with AIDs who repented of their sin of homosexuality. Why does this man condemn ALL Apostolic churches? Chosen has done damage to his cause to try to rally support for the gay AIDS community.
And here we see the crux of the matter that some seem to be ignoring.

CS, Newman, and a few others, including myself.......you were right on.

I hope this guy comes to find true repentance.
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