I just watched the episode of "Wife Swap" featuring the Hoovers (Hoovie, one of Admin). I wanted to watch it because I honestly wondered why in the world a UPC family would want to go on a show like that. I couldn't imagine it going well.
But I was wrong. Even though the UPC and it's precepts are far in my rear-view mirror, I was completely impressed with the Hoovers. I had emotions that I didn't expect. In one scene, the visiting mom was going to force the Hoover's daughters to wear pants. Well, I have have strong feelings about women being forbidden to wear pants and frankly it's a "doctrine" that I have a decent amount of contempt for. But I, along with my wife, found ourselves horrified that these little precious girls were going to have their traditions and teachings violated. I found myself openly cheering and rooting for the Hoovers.
There was a scene in which Hoovie's wife, Kristen, was being pushed into singing in a bar. She resisted but ended up singing and sharing her faith. It was amazing! And she carried herself in such a way that she, very obviously, impacted the other family. In fact, the husband, a former minister, ended up saying he wanted to re-open his heart to The Lord.
And Steve was put into some really awkward situations but handled it with class every time. I don't doubt the typical twisting to make families look silly, but they shined.
It's interesting but I surround myself with people like the other family all the time....people who drink, party, live rough lives, etc. I consider it my mission field. And normally I'd be a bit irritated by families like The Hoover's. But in this episode I could only be completely impressed.
I know this is an old subject on the forum but I just wanted to give a major "Thumbs Up" to The hoover Family.
Double amen that with a two thumbs way way up. I don't think we have seen all the fruit this tree will bear.
Double amen that with a two thumbs way way up. I don't think we have seen all the fruit this tree will bear.
I agree. I'm not in the UPC fan club and I don't like "the system". But I love what the Hoovers stand for and the way they displayed it. I can only appreciate their commitment to their values and I admire it. And they never appeared to be "holier-than-thou" when they stood their ground. A lot of people do that and it's a major turn-off.
I don't mean to make this a "UPC Issue", but I didn't expect to react the way I did. I learned something.
I agree. I'm not in the UPC fan club and I don't like "the system". But I love what the Hoovers stand for and the way they displayed it. I can only appreciate their commitment to their values and I admire it. And they never appeared to be "holier-than-thou" when they stood their ground. A lot of people do that and it's a major turn-off.
I don't mean to make this a "UPC Issue", but I didn't expect to react the way I did. I learned something.
The upc isn't the church, the church is the church, and that will not fit into any box we make. drop everything but the fact that Jesus wants us in his box.
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They believe God sent the Hoover's into their lives.
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They believe God sent the Hoover's into their lives.
I've seen two episodes of this show previous to the Hoover edition. It was a disaster. What a mess. I thought, "Anyone's crazy to do that." When I heard "Hoovie" had done the show, I really wanted to see it. My wife and I were both so impressed.
I've seen two episodes of this show previous to the Hoover edition. It was a disaster. What a mess. I thought, "Anyone's crazy to do that." When I heard "Hoovie" had done the show, I really wanted to see it. My wife and I were both so impressed.
I was, too. I recall seeing one show where a "Christian" (in name only) woman acted like a nutcase and cussed "in the name of the Lord." I had tears come to my eyes watching the outcome of the Hoovers episode.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
I agree. I'm not in the UPC fan club and I don't like "the system". But I love what the Hoovers stand for and the way they displayed it. I can only appreciate their commitment to their values and I admire it. And they never appeared to be "holier-than-thou" when they stood their ground. A lot of people do that and it's a major turn-off.
I don't mean to make this a "UPC Issue", but I didn't expect to react the way I did. I learned something.
I hadn't been able to see the episode, but Hoovie and his wife mailed it to me recently. My girls and I sat down to watch it this week...and although I no longer am part of the upc either, I thought the same things you did. They handled themselves with class. My girls were especially proud to tell all their friends who were watching it too that "we know them" and poor Bekah said "I've even babysat and changed a few of their diapers." lol the face that came with that.. we were taken back to that day.
I think this family is awesome... thanks for sending me a copy of the episode, I enjoyed watching it.
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