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07-04-2007, 09:42 AM
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Holy Unto The Lord
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No, I meant what I said. When scripture says something clearly enough that a 3rd grader can understand it, and someone still refuses to see what the Bible says, it is disdain for the scriptures. It is a willingness to ignore the truth of scripture as stated, and just want to live as one wants.
This deal with 'personal conviction' is a lie from Hell. We have this modern notion that one can have a personal conviction about certain things, and not others, regardless of what scripture says. Suddenly we can pick and choose what standards we want and which we do not. This is a lie. If it is in scripture, how dare we tell God we do not have a personal conviction to follow those scriptures?!
Sorry, folks. Regardless of what people say, we must live the Bible way, regardless of what our flesh desires.
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07-04-2007, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
No, I meant what I said. When scripture says something clearly enough that a 3rd grader can understand it, and someone still refuses to see what the Bible says, it is disdain for the scriptures. It is a willingness to ignore the truth of scripture as stated, and just want to live as one wants.
This deal with 'personal conviction' is a lie from Hell. We have this modern notion that one can have a personal conviction about certain things, and not others, regardless of what scripture says. Suddenly we can pick and choose what standards we want and which we do not. This is a lie. If it is in scripture, how dare we tell God we do not have a personal conviction to follow those scriptures?!
Sorry, folks. Regardless of what people say, we must live the Bible way, regardless of what our flesh desires.
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You are a trip. I am not saying that women wearing pants, makeup, or jewelry are matters of personal convictions. I am saying the prohibition against them are absolutely not scriptural at all. You and your ilk are the ones violating Biblical principle by adding to scripture.
I have yet to see an old time Pentecostal reconcile for me that of the two scriptures in the New Testament used against gold, etc one of them does not say to not let "costly apparel" be what makes a woman beautiful but just "apparel". So to take your interpretation of those scriptures a woman could not wear clothes at all.
However if one takes it in context and in view of the writing style of that day which is one of contrast one realizes those scriptures were not a prohibtion against gold, etc but putting forth the concept that a womans true, most imortant beauty, qualities,etc are inner traits not any outward adornment.
Then as far as makeup and pants go there is absolutely no bible for that just huge twisted leaps in logic.
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07-04-2007, 09:56 AM
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I am so thankful for the truth. If the Lord said something was an abomination in the Old testament, and He does not change, then it is still an abomination to this day. Thank you Jesus for the truth of Your word, so that I, and others who love You, are willing to NOT do what You hate.
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07-04-2007, 09:58 AM
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Getting to know Jesus
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
I am so thankful for the truth. If the Lord said something was an abomination in the Old testament, and He does not change, then it is still an abomination to this day. Thank you Jesus for the truth of Your word, so that I, and others who love You, are willing to NOT do what You hate.
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Have ya ever really studied the scripture to which you are referring?
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Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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07-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Subdued
Have ya ever really studied the scripture to which you are referring?
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Yes, I have. That is why I believe as I do.
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07-04-2007, 10:48 AM
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Big brother Bill: you said the scriptures were so clear that a 3rd grader could understand them.
You are using the mentality of third grader in your exegesis of the word.
Your intrepretation of your "holiness" proof texts is lacking in a thourough knowledge of the language it was penned in and to the peoples that were addressed in those texts.
People who interpret texts in such a carless fasion make themselves appaer as ignorant and unlearned.
I pray that minds and eyes that are closed to the truth that is seen only when you are willing to admit sosme of the things that you have declared as truth are in fact in serious error.
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07-04-2007, 10:50 AM
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If I could actually find in the bible 1/2 of the "standards" that are supposed to be in there, I doubt I would have such a problem with church.
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07-04-2007, 10:52 AM
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freeatlast, what is so sad is the fact that some refuse to see the clarity of scripture. I do not need to have a college education in order to twist, pervert, distort, and deny scripture. I can open the Bible and read it for myself, see what it says, and live by it.
I guess I will stay with my Bible. It may not be good enough for the carnal bunch. But, it is good enough for me.
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07-04-2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
If I could actually find in the bible 1/2 of the "standards" that are supposed to be in there, I doubt I would have such a problem with church.
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It is regrettable that somehow 'standards' have become such an issue that you now have a problem with church.
I suppose it is none of our business, but you did put it out there, SD...forgive me, but it saddens me.
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07-04-2007, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
If I could actually find in the bible 1/2 of the "standards" that are supposed to be in there, I doubt I would have such a problem with church.
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Obviously you lack a vivid imagination.
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