Bott 2020

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by diakonos

I heard a similar story from a friend... I thought you were relaying that story... though it wasn’t the pastor... My bad.

That’s interesting. The story was from Bro. Beans book. When I got into church almost 20 years ago. The church I was part of was very small, so I spent a lot of time by myself. I was given Bro. Beans 2 books, it helped me a lot and allowed me to understand a lot of what I was going through. If you don’t have any, message me your address I could send you them.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

That’s interesting. The story was from Bro. Beans book. When I got into church almost 20 years ago. The church I was part of was very small, so I spent a lot of time by myself. I was given Bro. Beans 2 books, it helped me a lot and allowed me to understand a lot of what I was going through. If you don’t have any, message me your address I could send you them.

Should be required reading/listening for every Apostolic preacher!

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Should be required reading/listening for every Apostolic preacher!

I totally agree.

[consapente89]

Elder Bean’s teaching in the prayer series settled the “ring issue” for me. I know it was on the recordings but I don’t recall if Elder Carrier included it in the book or not. It did a lot more than that for me...but listening to that was when my decision was made.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by n david

It certainly appeared you were placing blame on BOTT. Even your last sentence once again points at something which happened at the conference.


Have there been any updates? I'm interested in what happened to the man who was rushed to the hospital.

You know the flu is epidemic status around here. I have a close friend from Bible School whose whole family has been diagnosed with the same type B influenza virus my twins have been battling. My brother and his large family from Colorado just finally got over the flu in their household.

I find it more likely that these are suffering from a stomach virus or pre-existing condition than they caught some demonic spirit of infirmity while attending a minister's conference.


I absolutely agree that there's a difference between affliction and possession.


Want my opinion? I'll share anyway.

Either he made it up or that Pastor was dead, dry and empty.

"...he saw the spirit leave his body walk around the Pastor and enter into him."

I do not believe a spirit-filled individual can be possessed by a demonic spirit. I do believe a person can be afflicted, but I do not believe they can be possessed.

I agree, I don't believe a Holy Ghost filled saint can be possessed... oppressed? Certainly, but a demon spirit cannot enter into a place where the Spirit of God abides.

[Barb]

Lol We are now at 24 pages, and all I was doing was checking to see who was going to BOTT...

I can't hardly wait to see the responses in March when I ask who will be attending the WPF conference at the Rock Church, Elk Grove, CA, 'No Limits 2020'... they Live stream morning and evening services, no charge.

That should really be interesting...

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Elder Bean’s teaching in the prayer series settled the “ring issue” for me. I know it was on the recordings but I don’t recall if Elder Carrier included it in the book or not. It did a lot more than that for me...but listening to that was when my decision was made.

It’s in the book. The entire book was awesome to read. I still preach about the example he used about the pilot seat. A preacher and Bro. Bean were awaken early in the morning to pray in the spirit of intercession, and they prayed for a couple hours. They left that same morning for another country, when they were landing the pilot cut the runway short about a couple miles and they were 5 feet from the Caribbean. In the book its said that they felt like a hand picked that plane up and they were able to land safely. Shortly after they landed, they took off again to reach their final destination, while in flight the pilot came to them passed all the other passengers, asked them if they would like to come into the cockpit. they both went in, and they saw all the controls, they got to hear the pilots talk to the tower, they saw the mountain peaks ahead, they saw if there were any storms or obstacles. The friend of Bro. Bean wasn’t very interested in that and went back to seat with the rest of the passengers. They allowed Bro. Bean to stay until they landed, what a blessing. He then went on to say God showed him that there is a place in the spirit realm of God that we can see what’s ahead, while others may just want to be a passenger, we can see the mountains that are coming, we can see the storms before they arrive. I preach about that, i tell my Jail ministry class about that.
When I read that, I told the Lord thats my desire to be in a place with him so intimate, so close. Just last week the Lord gave me a dream and when i awoke i knew what was coming that day, couple hours later, boom it happened. I told the Lord Thank you, Jesus for showing before it came. It makes my walk that much easier. I love this, just like all of you I can talk about this all day. We don't have to live like a son or daughter of God, we don't have to live like a servant or a friend, we can live like a wife with God. My wife knows me better then my kids, better than my friends, better than any servants (don't have any), I give my wife the checkbook, she knows my secrets, Praise God, I love this.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Barb

I agree, I don't believe a Holy Ghost filled saint can be possessed... oppressed? Certainly, but a demon spirit cannot enter into a place where the Spirit of God abides.

Remember Sister Barb, The prince of Persia withstood the angel 21 days from delivering the message to Daniel. How does a demon withstand an angel for 21 days?

Sister, the difference between Possession and Oppression is ownership. I don't believe a spirit can possess a saint that has the Holy Ghost. Yet, a spirit can oppress you, but if people don't understand a spirit and how it works what are they going to cast the blame on?

1 Corinthians 12:10
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

One of the gifts for the church is discerning of Spirits. More than one!

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Barb

Lol We are now at 24 pages, and all I was doing was checking to see who was going to BOTT...

I can't hardly wait to see the responses in March when I ask who will be attending the WPF conference at the Rock Church, Elk Grove, CA, 'No Limits 2020'... they Live stream morning and evening services, no charge.

That should really be interesting...

Lol! If they live stream it I’d love to see it. On the other hand I enjoyed the services I saw at BOTT 2020. I was saddened that I wasn’t able to hear Bro. Jack Cunningham though.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Should be required reading/listening for every Apostolic preacher!

Have you listened to scum in the pot?