Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit. - Page 24

Cindy · #**231** 09-28-2010, 12:25 AM

It's so sad, some things I would rather just go through life not knowing about. Because sometimes ignorance IS bliss.

BeenThinkin · #**232** 09-28-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

It's so sad, some things I would rather just go through life not knowing about. Because sometimes ignorance IS bliss.

That is the truth!!!

BT

BeenThinkin · #**233** 09-28-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tstew

In short, down low is not a black behavior. It is a black term for a common behavior.

One final response and I promise I'm going to bed. Your statement I agree is a good one. But, it does not answer all of the questions I ask in the above post. Here they are again....

1) If the accusation against Bishop Long was "down low behavior" would that ("down low behavior") be a "black behavior" issue?

2) Forget everything else... is "down low" a black community issue?

3) Did it start in the black community? The term "Down low?"

4) Is it referred to by anyone as "a black community issue?"

5) Other men engage in sex with other men, that's not the issue I'm discussing, but is the "down low issue" a black community problem bringing HIV and Aids to the black community?

God bless you all! I respect all men of all races and I sincerely hope and pray that none of this is proven to be true about Bishop Long. Damage is already done and the enemy would love for this to completely destroy his church and ministry. God forbid!

BT

warrior · #**234** 09-28-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

One final response and I promise I'm going to bed. Your statement I agree is a good one. But, it does not answer all of the questions I ask in the above post. Here they are again....

1) If the accusation against Bishop Long was "down low behavior" would that ("down low behavior") be a "black behavior" issuse

2) Forget everything else... is "down low" a black community issue?

3) Did it start in the black community? The term "Down low?"

4) Is it referred to by anyone as "a black community issue?"

5) Other men engage in sex with other men, that's not the issue I'm discussing, but is the "down low issue" a black community problem bringing HIV and Aids to the black community?

God bless you all! I respect all men of all races and I sincerely hope and pray that none of this is proven to be true about Bishop Long. Damage is already done and the enemy would love for this to completely destroy his church and ministry. God forbid!

BT

I have worked in education and HIV/AIDS for a number of years now. The term "Down Low" is used in the African American community. It is used because being gay in the black community is not generally acceptable. So, men who don't typically exhibit feminine behavior but particpate in sexual activity with men are termed as being on the "Down Low". Black men don't want to be called gay. Its just that simple. The stigma in the community for a gay black man is very bad.

Because black men don't want anyone to know of their sexual activity with other men, it is hard to disclose to their female partners. Therefore, it up to African American women to insist that their partners use protection to prevent transmission. They are simply not aware that their male partner is having sex with men.

To Really Answer Your Question: Only the term "DOWN LOW" is exclusive to the black community. You can find the behavior in every community and culture your think of.

I hope I answered your questions. I'm an African American who sees these issues everyday.

coadie · #**235** 09-28-2010, 07:49 AM

My concern is his wife and children. They are the victums. They didn't participate in this.

Hoovie · #**236** 09-28-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior

I have worked in education and HIV/AIDS for a number of years now. The term "Down Low" is used in the African American community. It is used because being gay in the black community is not generally acceptable. So, men who don't typically exhibit feminine behavior but particpate in sexual activity with men are termed as being on the "Down Low". Black men don't want to be called gay. Its just that simple. The stigma in the community for a gay black man is very bad.

Because black men don't want anyone to know of their sexual activity with other men, it is hard to disclose to their female partners. Therefore, it up to African American women to insist that their partners use protection to prevent transmission. They are simply not aware that their male partner is having sex with men.

To Really Answer Your Question: Only the term "DOWN LOW" is exclusive to the black community. You can find the behavior in every community and culture your think of.

I hope I answered your questions. I'm an African American who sees these issues everyday.

That is great. I was not aware of this.

I wish other races shared that stigma.

DAII · #**237** 09-28-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

My concern is his wife and children. They are the victums. They didn't participate in this.

What are victums? ... sufferers of antacid medicine?

DAII · #**238** 09-28-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior

I have worked in education and HIV/AIDS for a number of years now. The term "Down Low" is used in the African American community. It is used because being gay in the black community is not generally acceptable. So, men who don't typically exhibit feminine behavior but particpate in sexual activity with men are termed as being on the "Down Low". Black men don't want to be called gay. Its just that simple. The stigma in the community for a gay black man is very bad.

Because black men don't want anyone to know of their sexual activity with other men, it is hard to disclose to their female partners. Therefore, it up to African American women to insist that their partners use protection to prevent transmission. They are simply not aware that their male partner is having sex with men.

To Really Answer Your Question: Only the term "DOWN LOW" is exclusive to the black community. You can find the behavior in every community and culture your think of.

I hope I answered your questions. I'm an African American who sees these issues everyday.

Yep, again.

ManOfWord · #**239** 09-28-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

I haven't talked about this term and don't really care about it. Aim your remarks about this term at someone else. I haven't made an issue of it. MOW, you, Billy Graham, and your grandma can talk about "Down low" all you want. I really don't care.

THIS is what I've objected to:

"I am personally aware of this type of behavior among some black preachers."

This shouldn't have been said. He brought race into a discussion and IT DIDN'T BELONG HERE!!!

You have every right to object to it. I only brought my personal knowledge into it. Eddie Long happens to be a black brother. I have knowledge of this happening among my circles of influence. I shared my knowledge. You can object all you want, and you can claim insinuation etc. all you want, but I neither retract anything I stated, wasn't wrong in anything I stated, and don't feel anything I stated was out of line. I can't be anymore clear in what I repeatedly stated w/o guile or ill intent. I'll let my reputation speak for itself.

Secondly, YOU'RE to one who highlighted the race issue over and over and over by blowing a gasket when it, IMO, was unwarranted. You get the award for making it a race issue when the discussion would probably have simply gone on about the topic of this thread as it was intended. Well done!

I think you're having a hard time seeing around that "beam." But that's just my opinion and I could be dead wrong and I accept that.

rgcraig · #**240** 09-28-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

You have every right to object to it. I only brought my personal knowledge into it. Eddie Long happens to be a black brother. I have knowledge of this happening among my circles of influence. I shared my knowledge. You can object all you want, and you can claim insinuation etc. all you want, but I neither retract anything I stated, wasn't wrong in anything I stated, and don't feel anything I stated was out of line. I can't be anymore clear in what I repeatedly stated w/o guile or ill intent. I'll let my reputation speak for itself.

Secondly, YOU'RE to one who highlighted the race issue over and over and over by blowing a gasket when it, IMO, was unwarranted. You get the award for making it a race issue when the discussion would probably have simply gone on about the topic of this thread as it was intended. Well done!

I think you're having a hard time seeing around that "beam." But that's just my opinion and I could be dead wrong and I accept that.

Yep.