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12-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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There are good ones? Really?
Hey MOW, I have an idea. If you really want "the priesthood of all believers" I recommend you disperse your pastoral salary evenly amongst all the saints in your church.
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Only if they would reciprocate!  Communism only works when it's "all for all."
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12-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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You really can't correct ANYONE outside of a good relationship. It doesn't have to be buddy buddy, but only a good relationship gives someone (a pastor) any real authority in someone's life. Long distance correction doesn't EVER work. |
I had a wise man once tell me that it's impossible to shepherd from the mountaintop if the sheep are in the valley.
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12-11-2008, 08:30 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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By the way, the movie was great!
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You went to see a movie???????
Well, you just lost your alliance with Amos there! 
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12-11-2008, 08:31 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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You really can't correct ANYONE outside of a good relationship. It doesn't have to be buddy buddy, but only a good relationship gives someone (a pastor) any real authority in someone's life. Long distance correction doesn't EVER work. |
A powerless pulpit engenders powerless Christians.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Only if they would reciprocate! Communism only works when it's "all for all." |
Well, I mean, hey, if we're all equal and everything.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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I had a wise man once tell me that it's impossible to shepherd from the mountaintop if the sheep are in the valley.
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Very wise man!!!
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12-11-2008, 08:33 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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You went to see a movie???????
Well, you just lost your alliance with Amos there! |
I saw it in my living room on my MONITOR. 
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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12-11-2008, 08:34 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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I saw it in my living room on my MONITOR. |
Oh, well, you probably still lost your alliance!
What movie did you watch?
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12-11-2008, 08:35 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
I understand pastors are to help establish people in the faith and to mentor them,and disciple them yet how can he do that ,if he is not a friend of those placed in his care ?
One understands if one is a true friend they have your best interest at heart,if a pastor has your best interest at heart,he preaches the word to you wheter you like what the word says or not.
I think one can have their pastor as their friend and can also view him as a watcher of their soul.
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Amen to the good brother from the great state of Alabama. I'd hate to know I couldn't consider my pastor my friend. If I couldn't, he wouldn't be my pastor for long!
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12-11-2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: How close should a pastor get to the members?
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Oh, well, you probably still lost your alliance!
What movie did you watch?
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Ice Age.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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