Mature christians do not bash even if they do not agree...I had faded out of several things in my life because I did not agree...
Whoever bashes on either side is wrong...we can disagree but not try to kill and leave a bloody trail...
Wise words, Sis. Alvear.
I personally need to improve in this area.
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Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship
Wasn't resolution 4 specifically about TV advertising. What is your problem with that?
Yes resolution 4 was just about advertising on TV; is resolution 4 the only thing we've been discussing in this thread? No.
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Mature christians do not bash even if they do not agree...I had faded out of several things in my life because I did not agree...
Whoever bashes on either side is wrong...we can disagree but not try to kill and leave a bloody trail...
Amen. We can discuss, state our position, back it up with scripture or apply scriptural principles, agree, disagree, etc. I see nothing wrong with that.
We can stick to facts that have happened or are written in the word of God and in the UPC manual.
Now opinions are just that opinions - if they cannot be backed up with facts/evidence, then they are just opinions.
One can guess at the motives of others, but without knowing, they are just guesses/opinions.
I don't think apostolics are about killing and leaving a bloody trail - if they are, then something just is not right; perhaps if they do, they are offended.
Concerning offenses, Jesus gave us what to do - if you bring your gift to the alter and you KNOW that someone has ought against you, then you are to leave your gift at the altar, and make things right with them first. Also, if your brother trespass against you, then the first step is to go to them ALONE and state your case - if he hears you, then you have gained your brother. The reason why you go to him is because he may not KNOW that he trespassed against you.
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Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls...
Yes resolution 4 was just about advertising on TV; is resolution 4 the only thing we've been discussing in this thread? No.
I was not asking only in the confines of this thread. I am curious because many people point to Res. 4 as the catalyst for their decision to leave the org.
And for the record, 90% of what we have been discussing has not been the original topic of the thread.
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4 in written form was about advertising. However, symbolically, it was about a faction that proved it had the ability to push a resolution through if it was willing to push long enough. 4 years of pushing this through is outside of the spirit of the merger of dividing the bretheren. Res 4 is a foot in the door that, if left as is, will provide avenues of further decline and - you haven't seen anything yet - mass exodus.
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I was not asking only in the confines of this thread. I am curious because many people point to Res. 4 as the catalyst for their decision to leave the org.
And for the record, 90% of what we have been discussing has not been the original topic of the thread.
My Pastor's decision to step down from the general board and not to renew his license was not made soley on Resolution 4. He gave his reasons to the Board and many other board members stood up and said many good things about him and how they respected him, wished him all the best, and did not say anything in rebuttal to the things he mentioned.
For some it may have been the straw on the camel's back.
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Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls...
4 in written form was about advertising. However, symbolically, it was about a faction that proved it had the ability to push a resolution through if it was willing to push long enough. 4 years of pushing this through is outside of the spirit of the merger of dividing the bretheren. Res 4 is a foot in the door that, if left as is, will provide avenues of further decline and - you haven't seen anything yet - mass exodus.
Curious...why is Res 4 and the "push" any more devisive than what happened in '94?!
Is that when they made every licensed preacher re-commit to the things that they once agreed to in writing to commit to?
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Jer 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls...
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