Have you read the Second Shift by Arlie Hoschild? .... inequity is still true today in our society ... especially w/ working mothers
If it's true in society ... it's true in the Church ...
The bottom line is that women cannot be equal unless men allow us to be. That's because the husband is the head of the wife and that will never change.
No, I can't, because I think the historical denigration of women is awful, and I can't think of a thing good to say about it, except for the fact that in our day, in our country, it is nowhere near as bad and prevalent as it used to be.
For that I rejoice.
If you want to paint me as some kind of male chauvinist pig, it won't work. There are too many that will testify to the contrary.
I have been an advocate and protector of women my whole life.
I have put myself in harm's way to defend ladies, and would do so again in a minute.
I stood up to a grown man when I was 12 years old over an abusive situation, knowing I might get my brains half knocked out.
A year or so later, when I was around 13-14, I faced a man swinging a chain in order to help extricate a young lady from him.
I have helped women get free of abusive relationships--real abusive relationships, not the penny=ante stuff that sometimes gets whined about. A disagreement gets magnified into "mental abuse."
You could poll the women in my life and they would all tell you that I am a gentleman with huge respect for women.
Forgive the transparency and personal examples, but I have not always lived in idyllic situations, and had a rough childhood in some ways.
I'll go to the wall to help a woman in trouble.
I have zero tolerance for abusive men.
But this nonsense about Apostolic standards being persecution, is a joke, a bad joke that isn't funny.
Should I judge what you have said compared to how you have treated me on several forums? Should I measure all men by the way some have done? I think you and I can make false assumptions about the other based on how we have treated each other on the forum. Some of which is due to misinterpreting and putting a slant on other's posts that were not intended.
Should I judge what you have said compared to how you have treated me on several forums? Should I measure all men by the way some have done? I think you and I can make false assumptions about the other based on how we have treated each other on the forum. Some of which is due to misinterpreting and putting a slant on other's posts that were not intended.
Sincerely, Rhoni
To be fair, CS has treated me well. He's sometimes stuck in that old ultra-con thought, but I can forgive him for that.
The bottom line is that women cannot be equal unless men allow us to be. That's because the husband is the head of the wife and that will never change.
Hello ... I'm the first to be thankful men are not equal to women ... I sort of like the differences.
When I speak of inequity ... I speak of opportunities, the implementation of policies [ie. modesty], attitudes, abuse, expectations, etc.
To be fair, CS has treated me well. He's sometimes stuck in that old ultra-con thought, but I can forgive him for that.
That may be true ILG, but one must learn to be consistent and to not dogmatically attack when others do not agree with their dogma. It only takes one false prophecy to make one a false prophet. Does this apply to other things as well?
Hello ... I'm the first to be thankful men are not equal to women ... I sort of like the differences.
When I speak of inequity ... I speak of opportunities, the implementation of policies [ie. modesty], attitudes, abuse, etc.
Right. You act like I was disagreeing!!
I completely agree. The thing is, women can never be equal unless men let them be, which will never happen as a whole (not saying we shouldn't try) because lots of men are jerks. It takes a real man to lift up a woman.
Don't put more into the post than is stated. I know that you defend Felicity because she only posts in agreement with your sometimes ridiculous posts. I tell you if I agree and I tell you when I disagree. It is who I am. You do not have to attack me just to defend her.
BTW if you will do a little research on the glass-ceiling effect, as well as the roles and denegration of women historically you will find my statement to be right in line with the research.
Blessings, Rhoni
Weird. CS has agreed with my posts and I rarely agree with his!! LOL! I tell CS and others all the time whether I agree with them or not, but CS isn't one to agree with one because they like his posts. He has his own brain.
I don't believe he 'attacked' you either. I think you just have a problem with men. Period.
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
The bottom line is that women cannot be equal unless men allow us to be. That's because the husband is the head of the wife and that will never change.
That doesn't mean women have to tolerate abuse from anybody. Male or female alike. If any women is in an abusive relatonship, she needs to seek counseling from a competant professional that can help her see the way more cleary. This may not be someone in the church either. Choices have consequences and if a man chooses to be abusive even int he pulpit, he shold know people are free to leave that abuse.
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