There Has Been A Change

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

Actually, he DID say he felt or had feelings . . .

Also, if you take time to read through the posts of Bro. Strange, how else, if not through feeling, would he recognize a spirit? It's not as though he physically saw an old nemesis and said, "Aha! YOU again!?!" I'm pretty sure he "felt" something in his spirit that he didn't agree with.

I don't fault him for feeling something he may not agree with . . . what I'm interested in knowing is this: will he step up and speak to MB personally about this and charge him with the same fervor he's done online here.

It's doubtful . . . but I could be wrong.

Amen.....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

His initial post DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FEELINGS. Are you folks just looking for a fight or what?

He was very plain in stating he recognized the spirit. Anyone with an ounce of Holy Ghost would have no problem understanding that you do not know a spirit by feelings, but by the Spirit. I have been around demons on several occasions in my life, and it was not FEELINGS that let me know they were there. It was by the Holy Ghost (maybe discernment), not by feelings.

And I am sure after recognizing that everyone else there seemed to be oblivious to what was transpiring in the spirit realm, I would tend to "FEEL" ready to weep myself.

Whether or not Bro Strange chose to confront MB or not is up to him. Again, this IS a discussion board, and opinions are discussed. IF MB does not like it, he can either continue on without blinking an eye (which is most likely), come here and refute it, or get out of the limelight so he is not talked about.

Yes he DID mention his Feelings. CR is right...it's not like he saw an old friend. He "felt" something. He said it. He said he was wrestling with feelings too. Feelings are subjective and they can cause your thinking to be skewed just as being a friend to someone can do the same.

Im sure MB would not like to find out that someone posted he has a demonic spirit working through him.....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

You can 'feel' the presence of a spirit just like you 'feel' the presence of God. It's definitely a different 'feeling'.

But you can also 'feel' something within your own spirit when something is not quite right. It's not a good feeling, but a sinking, sick feeling or maybe you could call it an uneasy feeling in the pit of your being.

but it's still being "felt" or part of your feelings. I have heard folks say they "felt" this or that in the Spirit and in fact it was not in the Spirit. Feelings are subjective and we better not only be careful but have more than just one persons "I felt it in the Spirit"...especially when the conclusion is that this man is not a man of God anymore but a man of the devil. My goodness!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Amen! God does bless those who give; it's scriptural - the law of sowing and reaping. I don't believe that He blesses us to make us just rich and full of good things; I believe He blesses His people to further the Kingdom. The only way the gospel will be preached to the whole world is through money.

When I give faithfully and sacrificially, I have confidence that God will bless me and provide for all my needs, and oftentimes my wants too.

I also believe God can and does bless. However I believe the New Testament shows a balance here and that God also uses trials, tribulations, conflict, and adversity to mold us into his image.

The beef I have with what is commonly referred to as the "prosperity" preachers of this day is that they are totally unbalanced and only provide one sliver of scripture and truth.

They present giving like it is a slot machine that is guaranteed to pay out. Also that it is God's will for all of us to be rich. That is just not in the Bible.

Any blessings we get from God are a byproduct from giving with the expectation of nothing in return. Giving because it is out of our heart, not from greed to receive more than we have given.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by CC1

I also believe God can and does bless. However I believe the New Testament shows a balance here and that God also uses trials, tribulations, conflict, and adversity to mold us into his image.

The beef I have with what is commonly referred to as the "prosperity" preachers of this day is that they are totally unbalanced and only provide one sliver of scripture and truth.

The present giving like it is a slot machine that is guaranteed to pay out. Also that it is God's will for all of us to be rich. That is just not in the Bible.

Any blessings we get from God are a byproduct from giving with the expectation of nothing in return. Giving because it is out of our heart, not from greed to receive more than we have given.

Thank you! And what we had was only one small example and excerpt, Is that enough to judge these individuals as prosperity teachers?

[tv1a]

I'm beginning to think WP's monitor is possessed. I think his monitor edits the comments we post and give wp a completely different set of data than what we inputed. This isn't the first time he's added his two cents on a subject and we had to return his money.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

who said we give not because we love him but because we expect a return?

[Praxeas]

lol...

[tv1a]

Good post. One side doesn't automatically have to negate the other. There are numerous Biblical principles that if followed would make a person wealthy. Many people do not realized wealth is more than giving. It is positioning. Being in the right place at the right time. Most wealthy people do not get wealthy overnight. They get wealthy by following a discipline regiment, which many if not all have scriptural basis.

Originally Posted by CC1

I also believe God can and does bless. However I believe the New Testament shows a balance here and that God also uses trials, tribulations, conflict, and adversity to mold us into his image.

The beef I have with what is commonly referred to as the "prosperity" preachers of this day is that they are totally unbalanced and only provide one sliver of scripture and truth.

The present giving like it is a slot machine that is guaranteed to pay out. Also that it is God's will for all of us to be rich. That is just not in the Bible.

Any blessings we get from God are a byproduct from giving with the expectation of nothing in return. Giving because it is out of our heart, not from greed to receive more than we have given.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

I also believe God can and does bless. However I believe the New Testament shows a balance here and that God also uses trials, tribulations, conflict, and adversity to mold us into his image.

The beef I have with what is commonly referred to as the "prosperity" preachers of this day is that they are totally unbalanced and only provide one sliver of scripture and truth.

The present giving like it is a slot machine that is guaranteed to pay out. Also that it is God's will for all of us to be rich. That is just not in the Bible.

Any blessings we get from God are a byproduct from giving with the expectation of nothing in return. Giving because it is out of our heart, not from greed to receive more than we have given.

Excellent post, CC1! I didn't feel inclined to participate on this thread, but when I read this, I had to say - Good post, CC1!

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Feelings are subjective, It could also be that Bro Strange's perception is skewed. This person here even reported something that validates one of the prophecies

Oh please!!!!!!!!

I've moved among these kind of people for many years. I know them very, very well. He has NOTHING on ol' Leroy Jenkins, loaded down with more gold and diamonds while he prophesies and works in the supposed gifts to insignificance.

Prophesying accurately and calling people out, even calling their names and telling them things that NO ONE knows anything about except them is NOTHING uncommon among folks like Leroy Jenkins, Alton Hayes, and many prophets that I've known over the years. I know their spirits VERY well. I am not a Johnny come lately in all of this. I was once very tempted to move in that realm with the same spirit. I am so glad that I refused it. It would not take me but a few minutes to take on that spirit and walk the aisles calling out people for hours in a packed auditorium as I have done many times, but I refuse to do it with the kind of spirit that some of these guys have. I know all about it. However, it is a spirit of error and it becomes a Jeanie Dixon hit and miss situation...often far more hits than misses.