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Old 01-05-2012, 01:34 PM
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Now you're a 7th day adventist???
I do believe in honoring God's Law. Most don't realize that there is a difference between the Law of Moses and the Law of God. Remember, the book of the law, the Law of Moses, was put along side the Ark of the Covenant. The Law of God (Ten Commandments) were put inside the Ark of the Covenant. The Law of Moses were civil and ceremonial laws governing Israel with regards to how they were to keep the Ten Commandments in their time and culture. These hand written ordinances of Moses that were ended at the cross. The Ten Commandments still stand. Their essence being loving God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself.

How do you love God with all your heart?
I. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me
II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
III. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
thy God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain
IV. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
V. Honor thy father and thy mother,
that thy days may be long upon the land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee
How do you love your neighbor as yourself?
VI. Thou shalt not murder
VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery
VIII. Thou shalt not steal
IX. Thou shalt not bear false witness
against thy neighbor
X. Thou shalt not covet
The Ten Commandments are the "law of liberty". They set us free, determining sin from righteousness. All things that are "sin" violate these laws in spirit or actuality.

The Ten Commandments are not abolished:
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The Law of Moses was nailed to the cross:
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
The Law of God still stands, defining the holy from the profain.
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Is not the Fourth Commandment part of the Ten Commandments. All that the Sabbath law states is:
Exodus 20:8-11 (ESV)
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
REMEMBER the Sabbath (because it is easily forgotten and has been).
Keep it holy, a day of worship and fellowship.
We are to rest and relax, celebration, PARTY!!!
Not focus on work or occupation.
The entire family is to participate.
This day honors God as creator and Lord of all things.

All the additional Sabbath laws about sticks, walking only so far, yadda, yadda, yadda, are part of the Law of Moses, nailed to the cross.

Rest, worship, party! That's the Sabbath bro! Praise God!
Isaiah 58:13-14
"If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath from doing your pleasure on my holy day and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honourable and shall honour him not doing your own ways, nor finding your pleasure, nor speaking your own words. Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord."
Celebrate all that God is to you on the Sabbath.

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Old 01-05-2012, 01:38 PM
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Re: All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it's a good thing the Ultra Cons are so against TV...can you imagine people watching this stuff and then hearing at the end "Please visit our loving, caring congregation at ABC Apostolic church, or ABC Oneness Pentecostal church"???

Now if they would only be consistent and get off the internet too
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I think it's a good thing the Ultra Cons are so against TV...can you imagine people watching this stuff and then hearing at the end "Please visit our loving, caring congregation at ABC Apostolic church, or ABC Oneness Pentecostal church"???

Now if they would only be consistent and get off the internet too
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Really? Homosexuals are fine, then, if they keep The Ten?
Any sexual union outside of the marriage bond adulterates God's provision of marriage. Homosexuality is such a sin, it violates the 7th Commandment.
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Now you're a 7th day adventist???
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:52 PM
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Any sexual union outside of the marriage bond adulterates God's provision of marriage. Homosexuality is such a sin, it violates the 7th Commandment.
One could creatively interpret any of the commandments to come up with any prohibition they wanted to, I suppose.
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One could creatively interpret any of the commandments to come up with any prohibition they wanted to, I suppose.
I can't outlaw pants, wedding bands, shrimp, or cut hair with the Ten Commandments. lol

That's why James calls the Ten Commandments, the Law of Liberty.
James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:12
So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Remember what Jesus said:
Matthew 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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Old 01-05-2012, 03:13 PM
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Some men refuse to obey the Law of the LORD, yet pride themselves on obedience to the manual of their particular Pentecostal organization.
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I do believe in honoring God's Law. Most don't realize that there is a difference between the Law of Moses and the Law of God. Remember, the book of the law, the Law of Moses, was put along side the Ark of the Covenant. The Law of God (Ten Commandments) were put inside the Ark of the Covenant. The Law of Moses were civil and ceremonial laws governing Israel with regards to how they were to keep the Ten Commandments in their time and culture. These hand written ordinances of Moses that were ended at the cross. The Ten Commandments still stand. Their essence being loving God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself.

How do you love God with all your heart?
I. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me
II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
III. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
thy God in vain, for the Lord will not
hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain
IV. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
V. Honor thy father and thy mother,
that thy days may be long upon the land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee
How do you love your neighbor as yourself?
VI. Thou shalt not murder
VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery
VIII. Thou shalt not steal
IX. Thou shalt not bear false witness
against thy neighbor
X. Thou shalt not covet
The Ten Commandments are the "law of liberty". They set us free, determining sin from righteousness. All things that are "sin" violate these laws in spirit or actuality.

The Ten Commandments are not abolished:
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
The Law of Moses was nailed to the cross:
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
The Law of God still stands, defining the holy from the profain.
1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Is not the Fourth Commandment part of the Ten Commandments. All that the Sabbath law states is:
Exodus 20:8-11 (ESV)
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
REMEMBER the Sabbath (because it is easily forgotten and has been).
Keep it holy, a day of worship and fellowship.
We are to rest and relax, celebration, PARTY!!!
Not focus on work or occupation.
The entire family is to participate.
This day honors God as creator and Lord of all things.

All the additional Sabbath laws about sticks, walking only so far, yadda, yadda, yadda, are part of the Law of Moses, nailed to the cross.

Rest, worship, party! That's the Sabbath bro! Praise God!
Isaiah 58:13-14
"If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath from doing your pleasure on my holy day and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy day of the Lord honourable and shall honour him not doing your own ways, nor finding your pleasure, nor speaking your own words. Then you shall delight yourself in the Lord."
Celebrate all that God is to you on the Sabbath.
Aquila, I really like what you wrote, and I have a question. How are you determining the difference in scripture between the law of Moses, and the Law of God? Is there a different word used in the Hebrew translation to signify this? Just curious how you are pinpointing this difference. Thanks!
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