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07-08-2010, 02:56 PM
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Re: Sooooo silly..................
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Ever hear how gold and silver is connected to the Tabernacle and to the priests' garments?
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Shhhhh, Sam, come on now, you know better! The only "truth" they want to hear is what lines up with their theology!
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07-08-2010, 03:15 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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So now we've stooped to appealing to Lucifer for our doctrinal support?? Might wanna' try another source, as this only helps my position!
I've explained the Greek ad nauseum to you regarding the "putting on of apparel" in I Ptr. 3....yet you just plod along like you don't even see it.
Yes, our apparel is a reflection of the inner man...which is my whole point! Ornamentation, make-up, etc. reveals what's in the heart...precisely my point my dear Watson!
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Maybe that is why the harlot in the New Testament had more on board in her heart, that caused her to finally come to Jesus, than all the pharisees who were whited sepulchers of modesty,
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07-08-2010, 03:55 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
Then there's the harlot Rahab who outwardly looked like a devil, but in her heart was a desire to serve the God of Israel. She hid in her tent the two spies of Israel in an act of standing for the things of God in defiance of her own nation's authority. She was spared as Jericho fell into a heap of rubble.
Meanwhile, as though perfectly opposite in contrast to Rahab, Achan looked the part, was called the part and had reputation to boot, but he hid something in his tent as Rahab did. He hid a wedge of gold and Babylonish garment and silver. He defied the authority of God in his nation. He was buried beneath a heap of rubble as Jericho was.
It was like Rahab and Achan, though so different on the outward, exchanged places and truly belonged to the other's nation.
Perfect cases of the outward not matching the inward, with the more "holy" outward person being the fake. Lessons that show the outward is not a gauge to go by, by any means.
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07-09-2010, 10:23 AM
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Re: Sooooo silly..................
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Ever hear how gold and silver is connected to the Tabernacle and to the priests' garments?
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Ever hear that the gold & silver was on the INSIDE of the Tabernacle...not the OUTSIDE! Tks. for the help...I forgot about that one!
The OT priests were typological of NT believer's &, more importantly Jesus Christ...who fulfilled the type. When it comes to typology, what they did physically, NT believer's do spiritually. Sorry Sam, try again.
Besides, you've not interacted w/ the various Scriptures that I've presented. You can't explain them, so you simply ignore them & go to something else, which even advances the anti-jewelry messgae further! Tks, for the assistance....rdp.
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07-09-2010, 10:26 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Maybe that is why the harlot in the New Testament had more on board in her heart, that caused her to finally come to Jesus, than all the pharisees who were whited sepulchers of modesty,
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So according to this, we can parade around naked...right? Or else if we teach modesty, we're suddenly linked to the "pharisees"???? Yawn...you guys should come up w/ some new material after all of these years.
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07-09-2010, 10:29 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Then there's the harlot Rahab who outwardly looked like a devil, but in her heart was a desire to serve the God of Israel. She hid in her tent the two spies of Israel in an act of standing for the things of God in defiance of her own nation's authority. She was spared as Jericho fell into a heap of rubble.
Meanwhile, as though perfectly opposite in contrast to Rahab, Achan looked the part, was called the part and had reputation to boot, but he hid something in his tent as Rahab did. He hid a wedge of gold and Babylonish garment and silver. He defied the authority of God in his nation. He was buried beneath a heap of rubble as Jericho was.
It was like Rahab and Achan, though so different on the outward, exchanged places and truly belonged to the other's nation.
Perfect cases of the outward not matching the inward, with the more "holy" outward person being the fake. Lessons that show the outward is not a gauge to go by, by any means.
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Have you ever heard of the "Fallacy of Equivocation/Non-Sequiter"? You should study into these logical fallacies...you're grossly guilty of them above.
2 Cor. 7 tells us that we should have both inward & outward holiness...not one or the other! Try again Mike.
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07-12-2010, 09:22 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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2 Cor. 7 tells us that we should have both inward & outward holiness...not one or the other! Try again Mike.
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Outward holiness yes but not based on mans mistranslations of history and therefore scripture and mans traditions.
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07-12-2010, 09:37 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Outward holiness yes but not based on mans mistranslations of history and therefore scripture and mans traditions.
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."
Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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07-12-2010, 10:58 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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"Mistranslations of history"??? Ever heard of the Bible? It says "N-O-T the WEARING of gold...."
Sheesh...what part of "not" are you having trouble with??
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In context...
1 Peter 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing?
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07-12-2010, 11:02 AM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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In context...
1 Peter 3:3
Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; According to your logic, should we also avoid wearing clothing?
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