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07-09-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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Originally Posted by tstew
DA, I'm not claiming to be an expert or proponent of any Hair Doctrine. I'm just saying that since the passage specifically refers to the power on her head, it is unfair to respond as if it is lunacy to discuss power. And I still don't see how it is usurping the Spirit of God.
I also believe that there is empowerment and protection that comes from obedience to the Reymah Word.
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By the way in regards to this magic hair doctrine permeating the church a couple of years ago Foreverblessed gave an anecodtal account of two teenage girls in her church at the time who were living like the devil but suddenly started letting their hair grow. When she inquired about it they told her they now had uncut hair so they could get power / angels.
It is just an anecdotal account but one from a reliable source and someone who at one time had bought into RR's doctrine 100%. Perhaps if she sees this she can relate the incident better.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-09-2008, 11:11 AM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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Originally Posted by chosenbyone
I read the following posts on the thread, "Stoneking:Churches going Charismatic Exploit Women", which I thought they seemed appropriate on this thread too. These two members spoke more truth within a few paragraphs than many do in thousands of posts.
Please forgive my cut and paste.
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You can always use the multi quote feature to make it easier on yourself.
Example of how to use it: How to use the multi-quote feature
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07-09-2008, 01:46 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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Thanks Frenchie!!! I have always wondered how people did those multi quotes and I am an admin. LOL!!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-09-2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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There are NO Christians outside the Apostolic church.
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07-09-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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His word teaches uncut hair is the covering NO magical powers but the covering.
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It doesn't say uncut hair anywhere. It doesn't cover anything when it is piled in a bun 
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07-09-2008, 03:55 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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Is it sybolic just for the sake of being symbolic? I don't think so. What authority is it symbolizing?
Power with angels? he hee hee
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Long hair [not uncut] is a sign of a woman's submission to authority, as angles are under submission to God...not that there are angelic powers attached to the hair... 
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07-09-2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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I think he is probably channeling the spirit of Wholehearted -where ever he happens to be at the moment.
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07-09-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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No I an NOT kidding everyone outside of the Acts 2;38 message is lost.
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07-09-2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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No I an NOT kidding everyone outside of the Acts 2;38 message is lost. |
There are many people who believe Acts 2:38 who are not "Apostolic". But I do agree with you that those who don't believe will be lost.
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07-09-2008, 08:34 PM
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Re: When Will A Respected and Influential Leader S
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No I an NOT kidding everyone outside of the Acts 2;38 message is lost. |
Let's see... if they do not believe in Jesus and His scriptures (including Acts 2:38) they will be lost.
Ok I can go with that.
Or did you not only mean believe the message of Acts 2:38, but also, believe and practice it exactly as you and I do??
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