Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Caleb P

No, it says in the bible that god does not permit a woman to teach over a man- therefore they cannot preach to the entire congregation. The women can teach children are other woman, but a man is ideal. The husband is the spiritual leader of the household.

I listened to his message and all though not the wisest thing to do I didn’t disagree with what he was preaching to them about.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

No joke that guy has actually sent two people to my church to get baptized. The first one I didn’t know what was going on the guy got baptized and took off...2nd time I was able to help the young man because I knew what was going on... the 2nd young man that came and been in church now for 6months doing very good!

You mean Gabe the Street Preacher? Hey that's cool. Kind of how I imagine a street preacher would operate.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You mean Gabe the Street Preacher? Hey that's cool. Kind of how I imagine a street preacher would operate.

Yah lol. First guy kept telling me Gabe the street preacher and I was like “ who?” . So the second one called the church wanting to be baptized in Jesus name I knew it was from that guy again. That’s not a call you get everyday lol.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

“Street Preacher” meets Apostolic Church in Revival with Elder J.H. Osborne in Modesto, CA.

I guess the “street preacher” was upset this church was allowing women preachers to preach.

https://youtu.be/3XfQhn8nusI

The street preacher was very disrespectful. He proclaimed that God had sent him to that church to reprove them. I think that he has bigger problems than women problems if it wasn't God who sent him. I do alot of things to pursue a work for the kingdom of God, but rarely am I so brazen to say God said for me to do this or that. If you have been instructed by God, so be it. If you are following what you feel that is alright too. If you say God told you when it was really a feeling that led you; then are in danger of misrepresenting God. We are ambassadors for Christ. IOW, we represent on his behalf. We only have authority through God when we are truly acting upon his instruction.

Paul teaches compromise in the church for the sake of unity. Paul would abstain from meat to keep from offfending a brother. Paul would have Timothy circumcised after he had already explained that circumcision was non essential to salvation. Paul states that all things are lawful, but not expedient. In east TN a man has been going around rebuking church leaders in support of flat earth teaching. I just don't see Jesus in the approach of many of these street preachers. There are a lot of things that I don't like about the denominal world of Church, but I don't want to be that doctor who kills his patient trying to remove a splinter.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

The street preacher was very disrespectful. He proclaimed that God had sent him to that church to reprove them. I think that he has bigger problems than women problems if it wasn't God who sent him. I do alot of things to pursue a work for the kingdom of God, but rarely am I so brazen to say God said for me to do this or that. If you have been instructed by God, so be it. If you are following what you feel that is alright too. If you say God told you when it was really a feeling that led you; then are in danger of misrepresenting God. We are ambassadors for Christ. IOW, we represent on his behalf. We only have authority through God when we are truly acting upon his instruction.

Paul teaches compromise in the church for the sake of unity. Paul would abstain from meat to keep from offending a brother. Paul would have Timothy circumcised after he had already explained that circumcision was non essential to salvation. Paul states that all things are lawful, but not expedient. In east TN a man has been going around rebuking church leaders in support of flat earth teaching. I just don't see Jesus in the approach of many of these street preachers. There are a lot of things that I don't like about the denominal world of Church, but I don't want to be that doctor who kills his patient trying to remove a splinter.

Explain how Paul taught us to compromise to keep unity? Please explain, I am eager to read what you have to say.

[good samaritan]

I gave 2 examples in the post you quoted ( in regards to meats and also the fact of having Timothy circumcised after refuting gentile circumcision). I know compromise sounds like an ugly word to apostolics, but anywhere there are people there must be some compromise. I am not talking about obvious biblically professed sins. I am talking about situations in scripture where there is the possibility of misinterpretation. There are no formally endorsed female leaders in our church, but there are women leaders in our church that direct our assembly through their influence. When they use that influence to usurp authority that is a different story. Just because a women stands behind a pulpit doesn’t mean she is usurping authority. Preaching and prophecy go hand in hand. At the same time it doesn’t bother me that you may disagree. I would feel that it would be uncompromising of a person solely to target our church because women may occasionally by permission of male leaders stand on the platform and speak. As for lady pastors I disagree, but I know of a truth preaching church now that would not be open for business if a lady didn’t come forward to do it. That is a shame for men. I choose not to theologically debate the validity of her ministry and hinder the work that is going on in that community. Jesus even acknowledged how the Pharisees choked at a gnat and swallowed a camel. If you are having problems from gung ho women in the church causing disorder, then the pastor as well as their husbands should deal with it. I believe Paul was addressing the issues in his letters to the churches, not trying to
create a forever rule that would later cause more division in the body Christ.

[good samaritan]

I have noticed that the people that float around outside of any church body, because there isn’t anyone with high enough standard; often are neglecting to face their own demons. I have seen people cause confusion and disruption in a church over other people’s liberty of celebrating Christmas. Coincidentally, they were women in the church.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I gave 2 examples in the post you quoted ( in regards to meats and also the fact of having Timothy circumcised after refuting gentile circumcision). I know compromise sounds like an ugly word to apostolics, but anywhere there are people there must be some compromise. I am not talking about obvious biblically professed sins. I am talking about situations in scripture where there is the possibility of misinterpretation. There are no formally endorsed female leaders in our church, but there are women leaders in our church that direct our assembly through their influence. When they use that influence to usurp authority that is a different story. Just because a women stands behind a pulpit doesn’t mean she is usurping authority. Preaching and prophecy go hand in hand. At the same time it doesn’t bother me that you may disagree. I would feel that it would be uncompromising of a person solely to target our church because women may occasionally by permission of male leaders stand on the platform and speak. As for lady pastors I disagree, but I know of a truth preaching church now that would not be open for business if a lady didn’t come forward to do it. That is a shame for men. I choose not to theologically debate the validity of her ministry and hinder the work that is going on in that community. Jesus even acknowledged how the Pharisees choked at a gnat and swallowed a camel. If you are having problems from gung ho women in the church causing disorder, then the pastor as well as their husbands should deal with it. I believe Paul was addressing the issues in his letters to the churches, not trying to
create a forever rule that would later cause more division in the body Christ.

I think you are misunderstanding what Paul was doing. Timothy was a Judean, the son of a Judean believer, his mother. Therefore circumcision was necessary for Timothy to be inline with the law. To enter the temple as a Judean. Titus was not circumcised because he was a Roman Greek Gentile. I will eat no more meat as long as the world standeth isn't compromise. It is accountability to new converts who understand that you are an elder. Who would know better to eat in a temple kitchen where the burnt offerings were sold for food. Paul is dealing with maturing of the saints who need time to figure out that an idol is nothing, and the food offered to the idol is nothing.

Putting a woman over married men to lead and teach wouldn't be considered just compromise but total rejection of God's word.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I have noticed that the people that float around outside of any church body, because there isn’t anyone with high enough standard; often are neglecting to face their own demons. I have seen people cause confusion and disruption in a church over other people’s liberty of celebrating Christmas. Coincidentally, they were women in the church.

I don't understand, care to clarify?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think you are misunderstanding what Paul was doing. Timothy was a Judean, the son of a Judean believer, his mother. Therefore circumcision was necessary for Timothy to be inline with the law. To enter the temple as a Judean. Titus was not circumcised because he was a Roman Greek Gentile. I will eat no more meat as long as the world standeth isn't compromise. It is accountability to new converts who understand that you are an elder. Who would know better to eat in a temple kitchen where the burnt offerings were sold for food. Paul is dealing with maturing of the saints who need time to figure out that an idol is nothing, and the food offered to the idol is nothing.

Putting a woman over married men to lead and teach wouldn't be considered just compromise but total rejection of God's word.

It still seems like compromise to me; To succumb to someone else’s standards(Irregardless of motivation).