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Old 10-31-2007, 05:24 PM
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The Tulsa Summitt history in the making.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:26 PM
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I'm glad I'm not going to be a part of the divisive history.......where men desert men, families and organizations because they FEAR what television advertising which is not a sin! may bring.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:36 PM
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I'm glad I'm not going to be a part of the divisive history.......where men desert men, families and organizations because they FEAR what television advertising which is not a sin! may bring.
Then you are happy and they are probably happy. Don't worry be happy.ar ty
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:13 PM
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I am not UPC but I think it would be interesting to see how things go. It is a moment in history, so to speak.
Another split,
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ho hum.
How many times have we OP's divided and split up already?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:19 PM
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Anybody else heard that a name for the new group will be PAA?

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Another split,
yawn,
ho hum.
How many times have we OP's divided and split up already?
Not a split of this magnitude in the history of the UPC.
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The Tulsa Summitt history in the making.
Steadfast says on his most recent thread:
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We had several candid conversations about recent events and I asked the coordinator point blank if the meeting was going to be a 'preaching' type meeting, a bloodbath or what... only to be told that what they want to do is NOTHING that would require anybody to leave the UPC. They simply want to talk options, hear suggestions and reiterate our goals as Apostolics.

That doesn't sound like "history making" to me. Sounds like a group of guys who don't really have any direction and they want to just, you know... sit around and explore ideas and possibilities.

Elder, I see guys doing a little dance and jig whenever Tulsa is mentioned, but these same guys suddenly clear their throats and stand straight whenever an "Assistant General Superintendent" is at a meeting with them.

It's suddenly like, "Oh! No sir! Tulsa's just going to be a philosophical soiree, that's all." Then the AGS leaves the room and all the guys snicker and start their little dance again.

That's an interesting way to be "making history."
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Steadfast says on his most recent thread:

That doesn't sound like "history making" to me. Sounds like a group of guys who don't really have any direction and they want to just, you know... sit around and explore ideas and possibilities.

Elder, I see guys doing a little dance and jig whenever Tulsa is mentioned, but these same guys suddenly clear their throats and stand straight whenever an "Assistant General Superintendent" is at a meeting with them.

It's suddenly like, "Oh! No sir! Tulsa's just going to be a philosophical soiree, that's all." Then the AGS leaves the room and all the guys snicker and start their little dance again.

That's an interesting way to be "making history."
Time will tell and it won't be very long.
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Not a split of this magnitude in the history of the UPC.
Eld. Epley,
Do you have any idea of how many left the UPC in 1992 after the Affirmation Statement? Or how many organizations/associations formed after that and as a result of that? I doubt if the numbers were as large back then as they seem to be this time but I really don't know. Of course, we didn't have forums to hash it over back then.
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Eld. Epley,
Do you have any idea of how many left the UPC in 1992 after the Affirmation Statement? Or how many organizations/associations formed after that and as a result of that? I doubt if the numbers were as large back then as they seem to be this time but I really don't know. Of course, we didn't have forums to hash it over back then.
I heard the number was no more than 200? TB might could help us more?
But they were not prepared thus became disjointed instead of organizing. If they had been organized they probably would have maintained their Pentecostal distinction instead of being so far flung?
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