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Old 08-27-2018, 03:06 AM
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I'm confused, what does this mean?
If the "synagogue of Satan" really is this big, old money clandestine masters of the universe group being purported in this thread, why hasn't Jesus come through with His end of the bargain?

Because no one as far as I can tell, has ever had these fellows step out from behind the shadows and worship at their feet and confess to them that Jesus loves them.
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If the "synagogue of Satan" really is this big, old money clandestine masters of the universe group being purported in this thread, why hasn't Jesus come through with His end of the bargain?

Because no one as far as I can tell, has ever had these fellows step out from behind the shadows and worship at their feet and confess to them that Jesus loves them.
I see what you are saying, tell me how you interpret this scripture, Brother Aaron:

Revelation 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars-I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
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I see what you are saying, tell me how you interpret this scripture, Brother Aaron:

Revelation 3:9 I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars-I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
1st: Jesus was speaking to the angel of the church at Philadelphia, so let's limit the exegesis primarily to that context.

2nd: Let's define what a synagogue is or means, and what satan in this context means, and how claiming to be Jews, but not actually being Jews, relates.

3rd: Finally, marry point 1 to point 2 and derive meaning.

Since Jesus was speaking to a very specific audience, and was not making a general claim of truth for all time for all believers everywhere, I think it's important to limit the meaning to that specific context. For example, why weren't all seven Asia Minor churches warned about a "synagogue of Satan" if such a synagogue is a universal danger that all believers everywhere for all time have to deal with?

No, this, like the other issues with the other angels, was a specific problem limited to that specific context.

Next, synagogue is merely a place of meeting, generally used to reference local buildings where Jewish believers congregated to study Torah and live a communal life.

Satan, as Esaias pointed out elsewhere recently, is a multivalent term, and does not always represent the dragon of Revelation 20:2. So, instead of looking at this group, this "synagogue" as some secret Satanist swap-meet, look at it as a fringe group of people who were bent on blaspheming and gossiping about, and accusing and slandering the true believers in Philadelphia, that is, they were guilty of a truly diabolical persecution.

If so, if that's the what, then how about the who? How about Diasporan Hellenists who had given up on the Jewish faith and had more in common with Philo of Alexandria than Jesus of Nazareth? Who thought it apropos to bully Gentile believers in a Jewish Messiah from Israel?

Or perhaps, Greek speaking Roman Christians who were pretending to be Jewish? Just like some fringe Hebrew Rootists who exist today and slander and malign anyone of the true faith who don't embrace their heresy?

So then, 1 + 2 =

The church at Philadelphia had but a "little strength", yet refused to deny the name Iesous. They were being persecuted, but Jesus was going to have the final say, and demonstrate His power through them and their "little strength" sufficient to cause this slandering synagogue to repent and realize their error so that they would have to confess that not they, but the Philadelphian believers, were the real deal.
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1st: Jesus was speaking to the angel of the church at Philadelphia, so let's limit the exegesis primarily to that context.

2nd: Let's define what a synagogue is or means, and what satan in this context means, and how claiming to be Jews, but not actually being Jews, relates.

3rd: Finally, marry point 1 to point 2 and derive meaning.

Since Jesus was speaking to a very specific audience, and was not making a general claim of truth for all time for all believers everywhere, I think it's important to limit the meaning to that specific context. For example, why weren't all seven Asia Minor churches warned about a "synagogue of Satan" if such a synagogue is a universal danger that all believers everywhere for all time have to deal with?

No, this, like the other issues with the other angels, was a specific problem limited to that specific context.

Next, synagogue is merely a place of meeting, generally used to reference local buildings where Jewish believers congregated to study Torah and live a communal life.

Satan, as Esaias pointed out elsewhere recently, is a multivalent term, and does not always represent the dragon of Revelation 20:2. So, instead of looking at this group, this "synagogue" as some secret Satanist swap-meet, look at it as a fringe group of people who were bent on blaspheming and gossiping about, and accusing and slandering the true believers in Philadelphia, that is, they were guilty of a truly diabolical persecution.

If so, if that's the what, then how about the who? How about Diasporan Hellenists who had given up on the Jewish faith and had more in common with Philo of Alexandria than Jesus of Nazareth? Who thought it apropos to bully Gentile believers in a Jewish Messiah from Israel?

Or perhaps, Greek speaking Roman Christians who were pretending to be Jewish? Just like some fringe Hebrew Rootists who exist today and slander and malign anyone of the true faith who don't embrace their heresy?

So then, 1 + 2 =

The church at Philadelphia had but a "little strength", yet refused to deny the name Iesous. They were being persecuted, but Jesus was going to have the final say, and demonstrate His power through them and their "little strength" sufficient to cause this slandering synagogue to repent and realize their error so that they would have to confess that not they, but the Philadelphian believers, were the real deal.
So, where is the data that this was an historical event, fulfilled as you suggest?

Why weren't all the churches warned about Jezebel or the Nicolaitans?

Considering all seven messages were distributed to all seven churches - and all churches worldwide, with the distribution of the Apocalypse - it seems reasonable that the warnings applicable to each specific church have relevance to all churches everywhere. When the seven churches are understood as representative of all churches - which appears from the context, and is far more likely than that they represent "seven church ages" - then the warnings and promises to each can be understood as being relevant to all churches that find themselves in similar predicaments or situations or conditions.

Finally, most of the promises to each church appear to refer to the eternal state. Notice:
Revelation 2:9-11 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. (10) Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. (11) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Revelation 2:22-28 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. (23) And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. (24) But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. (25) But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. (26) And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: (27) And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. (28) And I will give him the morning star.


Revelation 3:9-12 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. (10) Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. (11) Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. (12) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
The messages to the seven churches include contemporary issues, usually of persecution and struggle, with promises of victory, usually post-resurrection. The theme is that which is common through the New Testament - struggle in this age, undiminished victory in the next, usually in conjunction with the resurrection.

So, I see limiting the messages to the seven churches strictly to first century, local, contemporary issues only, as problematic.
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SOS typological symbolism is referring to a philosophical doctrine which proceeded from the Jewish fables at that time in history. But to deem the spiritual warfare perpetrated on our Apostolic forefathers doesn't exist in a current metaphysical state is unwise. Just as the OT was prophetic blessings and warnings to Israel coming to pass the NT is the same for the born again believers. Prophetic exegesis has always been current time the prophecy went forth; as well as the near and distant futures, for events to develop or come to pass.

1 Corinthians 10:10 (KJV) Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. 13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Colossians 2:16 (KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances.

As far as the comment why the Lord has not given us the victory over the current cabal system. We are sheep for the slaughter while being the light to the world. For our home is not what we see, but that which we reach for in the eternal

2 Corinthians 4:18 (KJV) While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

I am in no way saying our enemy is winning, but calling out those Holy Ghost believers to direct their anointed prayers to exposing this cabal. Just as some Christians are deceived by eschatological teachings so are those who identify with the benign culture of Judaism. Each of these groups are human shields for our enemy; and they are innocent, and are not our enemy. I have been consistent with this differentiation of groups being discussed.

“To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?”

I have not called anyone to single out a group to hurt them, but to peel back the intricate web of deception that has been woven in our midst. If you cannot feel the rising international resentment blaming Jewry for causing death and sorrow for their pursuit of Greater Israel then you lack discernment. The saints must intervene with prayers, love and understanding to protect the innocents of these groups. To wake all of them to give them an opportunity to purge those from their midst causing the hatred toward their people. Stop the wars through prayer then we see a revival that is unmatched throughout the world. Most people who come out against the status quo end up dead by a mishap. But the reward is to awake those who seek our Father with their anointed prayers to expose this Cabal. Look at the current news and see the pedophiles and frauds coming to light. There are more of us than you might think in directing our prayers to exposing this cabal and their false faiths. As for me I am ready to meet my King and it would be a honour to die for the brethren. I do not fear this cabal for I remember the words of the Psalmist. I believe the Church will Arise!

Psalms 23:4 (KJV) Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

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Ok Called out what do you think of this?
https://byebyebluesky.com/the-human-...ronic-warfare/

This sounds crazy although I've experienced, stuff similar to this when I was getting followed by the feds for about 2 years. I'm just wondering.
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Ok Called out what do you think of this?
https://byebyebluesky.com/the-human-...ronic-warfare/

This sounds crazy although I've experienced, stuff similar to this when I was getting followed by the feds for about 2 years. I'm just wondering.
Ok, I'll take the bait. Why were you being followed by the feds?
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Ok Called out what do you think of this?
https://byebyebluesky.com/the-human-...ronic-warfare/

This sounds crazy although I've experienced, stuff similar to this when I was getting followed by the feds for about 2 years. I'm just wondering.
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BW.php

Here is some information on weaponizing electromagnetic frequencies. The post that ended badly last year was on our governments terraforming the earth. Our government has been using US citizens and communities to test weapons under the guise of national security. Direct energy lasers weapons are being used to burn down California for several years. When they fill the air with strontium, lithium, barium and aluminum this is for weather manipulation to cause drought or torrential rainfalls. They have been starving Iraq of rainfall for years and waging war in stealth warfare campaign. The P2 Masons and elite believes he who controls the weather controls the world.

I have not experienced being a targeted individual, but there is strong evidence that this is a technique used against activist or whistleblowers by the FBI, CIA an NSA.. The army has been using frequencies for crowd control in the US and Voice of God technology in military campaigns. They can take your DNA and program weaponized frequencies to match your genetic profile; and hit you in a crowd, and nobody feels the effects but the one whose genetic profile has been inputted.

I have done a tremendous amount of studying in this field because I feel frequencies, microwave and DEW technology are being implemented as weapons against the citizenry right now. It is sad that people's pursuit of entertainment with needing faster speeds for downloads will be their Achilles heal. Everyone needs to do their own research on operation Talpiot. How US technology is being stolen and given to the whole world. Hope this answers your question.

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