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Old 07-19-2017, 10:54 PM
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If I understand Jesus correctly, there are no apostolic friends, just apostolics on one hand and worldling haters on the other.
I remember being in a meeting where this guy got up and stormed outside. The pastor motioned for me to go see what had occurred. This guy was out in front of the church when I caught up with him. He cursed me up one side and down the other. He then started to do the poking finger trick. Right under the knot of my black tie. Poke, poke, poke, curse word, poke. I turned the hullabaloo around by saying is this what I need? Is what you have what I need? Should I follow you? The brother who was preaching was preaching cornbread, and butter Jesus name baptism, and infilling of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues. Pretty simple, no Trinitarian was burned in effigy, no one was judged, or criticized. But this joker heard something that he felt was judging him personally. I finally got him back inside and he stayed and got baptized. A man's perception is his truth. You can't please everyone, some love you, some like you, some like, you sometimes, and some hate every single word you breath. That's life. But some people's idea of Christianity is so jacked up, that there is no way I would of stuck around when I first walked into an Apostolic church. The Apostolics offered me the real deal, it worked. Damaged for the rest of your life struggling with past? That isn't in the Gospel. Jesus makes you free, and free indeed.
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I'm older.
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I remember being in a meeting where this guy got up and stormed outside. The pastor motioned for me to go see what had occurred. This guy was out in front of the church when I caught up with him. He cursed me up one side and down the other. He then started to do the poking finger trick. Right under the knot of my black tie. Poke, poke, poke, curse word, poke. I turned the hullabaloo around by saying is this what I need? Is what you have what I need? Should I follow you? The brother who was preaching was preaching cornbread, and butter Jesus name baptism, and infilling of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues. Pretty simple, no Trinitarian was burned in effigy, no one was judged, or criticized. But this joker heard something that he felt was judging him personally. I finally got him back inside and he stayed and got baptized. A man's perception is his truth. You can't please everyone, some love you, some like you, some like, you sometimes, and some hate every single word you breath. That's life. But some people's idea of Christianity is so jacked up, that there is no way I would of stuck around when I first walked into an Apostolic church. The Apostolics offered me the real deal, it worked. Damaged for the rest of your life struggling with past? That isn't in the Gospel. Jesus makes you free, and free indeed.
I need to visit Florida, soon.

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Listen, it is all good. I always tell my daughters that we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Therefore nothing that happened to me was bad. I know, it was bad, but God still used what people intended for evil to be used for good. When I came to the Lord, I was finally able to forgive these people. I understood they were messed up, and that Jesus gave them the same opportunity
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If I understand Jesus correctly, there are no apostolic friends, just apostolics on one hand and worldling haters on the other.
I think your view is unbiblical, unless one is a Calvinist.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood, the people of this world are like hostages with a sin addicted Stockholm Syndrome. Their minds are often taken captive at Satan's will.

If they are enemy haters, then there is just us and them, no need to evangelize. But they are captives, not enemies. We're on a rescue mission in hostile territory, rescuing as many as possible, while enduring attacks from other hostages who have developed a bond with their captor.


That's how I see it.
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Old 07-19-2017, 11:24 PM
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Once again my dearest brother, you nailed the nail squarely and firmly.

I always found it odd how a reprimand (cloaked as observation) always takes the form of that which they are trying to correct.

I had a brother read me the post over the phone while I was busting concrete up. He did it with an accent like Thurston Howell, III. You could just imagine how that went over.
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I think your view is unbiblical, unless one is a Calvinist.
So if I was a Calvinist my view would be Biblical? Or, if YOU were a Calvinist, my view would be Biblical? I think your view is highly confused.

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We wrestle not against flesh and blood, the people of this world are like hostages with a sin addicted Stockholm Syndrome. Their minds are often taken captive at Satan's will.

If they are enemy haters, then there is just us and them, no need to evangelize. But they are captives, not enemies. We're on a rescue mission in hostile territory, rescuing as many as possible, while enduring attacks from other hostages who have developed a bond with their captor.


That's how I see it.
Jesus made it pretty plain - there's wheat, and there's tares. There are no "friends of wheat", the world hated Him and it hates His people. His people follow Him and His apostles (hence "apostolics"), if someone isn't apostolic they aren't following Him. That puts them in the tares category.

If the people who aren't following Christ and His apostles in the faith once delivered to the saints are singing your praises and slapping your back, then something's wrong. Not with them, though, cause the world loves its own...
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I need to visit Florida, soon.

Road trip?
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Jesus made it pretty plain - there's wheat, and there's tares. There are no "friends of wheat", the world hated Him and it hates His people. His people follow Him and His apostles (hence "apostolics"), if someone isn't apostolic they aren't following Him. That puts them in the tares category.
Well, nevermind.
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I think your view is unbiblical, unless one is a Calvinist.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood, the people of this world are like hostages with a sin addicted Stockholm Syndrome. Their minds are often taken captive at Satan's will.

If they are enemy haters, then there is just us and them, no need to evangelize. But they are captives, not enemies. We're on a rescue mission in hostile territory, rescuing as many as possible, while enduring attacks from other hostages who have developed a bond with their captor.


That's how I see it.
Haters have already made up their minds. Politics and religion don't mix. We don't agree to disagree. Ex-anything is usually hostile to the group they left behind in some degree. If someone is an ex-fill in the blank he or she wants to try and evangelize you. My wife was chatting away with a Mainstream Baptist Chrismatic Calvinist pastor's wife while we were out shopping one day. My wife told the woman to give her information to me. When she came over to give me her literature. I asked, "did you convert her" meaning my wife. The woman smiled and laughed. She said, "that was perceptive." Then she started to tell me all about the evils of "Pentecostals" I gave her litriture back, and we went our separate paths. We are in different movements of Christianity. We don't agree. Those disagreements keep us separated. Oh we can sit and have a banana split together. But sooner or later the differences are going to rise.

The Bible doesn't have Apostolic friends.

The apostles rebuked (must of had wicked stepmothers) an individual who was doing miracles in Jesus name. Jesus told them not to do that, because no one could do a miracle in His name, would be able to speak lightly of Him. But at judgement is when these individuals pay the piper. Jesus rebukes them ( Jesus didn't have a crazy stepparent?) saying remove from me you who are lawless I NEVER knew you. They replied that they were doing miracles in His name. Yet they still did not enter. Jesus isn't looking for friends. Jesus is looking for a Faith Child.
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