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Old 04-23-2015, 08:05 AM
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i think it should at least be considered that we have a lot of indications that what FDR said was dead on; "Presidents are selected, not elected." The potus does not depend upon the popular vote anyway, by law!
I would take that to mean that people are "swayed" or "lead" to who the powers that be want elected. That was very apparent with Fox News and Mitt Romney. So, I can agree with FDR on that.

It's also interesting how much Hitler and Mussolini agreed with FDR as well. "Mr. Roosevelt marches straight to his objectives over Congress, lobbies, and the bureaucracy." - Hitler. Sounds like someone else we currently have in the White House.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:33 AM
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lol, ya...being partial to kingdoms myself, i would have no problems there, anyway. But i think it bears repeating that even if everyone in the country voted for the flying spaghetti monster for potus, he would not hold the office. You have absolutely no say in who your potus is, and all the arguments to the contrary are surely illusions.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:42 AM
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lol, ya...being partial to kingdoms myself, i would have no problems there, anyway. But i think it bears repeating that even if everyone in the country voted for the flying spaghetti monster for potus, he would not hold the office. You have absolutely no say in who your potus is, and all the arguments to the contrary are surely illusions.
I don't think I can agree with you there. I've been involved in burning the phone lines to my representatives on issues and we were heard. The phone lines were burning when Obama and Reid tried to push gun control measures. They lost that big time. Reagan was slated to lose his election, but he won. Netanyahu had many working against him, including our own President and he won.
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:06 AM
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hmm, you say those as if they were good things...lol. I can certainly admit that i would rather have good guys in office than bad; i'm just not sure if humans can accomplish that! When is the last time an unknown, shepherd-type came from nowhere and won office, iow. I guess it does happen more locally; but i am convinced that the last democratically elected potus was assassinated.
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:20 AM
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hmm, you say those as if they were good things...lol. I can certainly admit that i would rather have good guys in office than bad; i'm just not sure if humans can accomplish that! When is the last time an unknown, shepherd-type came from nowhere and won office, iow. I guess it does happen more locally; but i am convinced that the last democratically elected potus was assassinated.
It always starts locally. And if you say you want good guys in office, you can't sit on your derriere and not do anything about it and then say it can't be done. There is no logic in that point of view.
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:27 AM
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It always starts locally. And if you say you want good guys in office, you can't sit on your derriere and not do anything about it and then say it can't be done. There is no logic in that point of view.
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:56 AM
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It always starts locally. And if you say you want good guys in office, you can't sit on your derriere and not do anything about it and then say it can't be done. There is no logic in that point of view.
i say i would prefer them, and even that is just a nod to my innate vanity. Satan runs that kingdom, of this i am assured. I want no offices, period. I have none, that i recognize. They mean "the world" to me. And good luck catching me sitting down, i don't even own a couch. So, a difference in perspectives, perhaps.

I have noted quite strong evidence that when the polits are ignored, en masse, they run to get back in front of us. So, i can't help but see Christians voting as just putting off the solution, as long as they vote within the confines set up by satan.
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:13 AM
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i say i would prefer them, and even that is just a nod to my innate vanity. Satan runs that kingdom, of this i am assured. I want no offices, period. I have none, that i recognize. They mean "the world" to me. And good luck catching me sitting down, i don't even own a couch. So, a difference in perspectives, perhaps.

I have noted quite strong evidence that when the polits are ignored, en masse, they run to get back in front of us. So, i can't help but see Christians voting as just putting off the solution, as long as they vote within the confines set up by satan.
I wasn't really speaking of you, in general, as sitting on a couch. Just speaking to the issue of inaction.

Anyway, gotta run again. Have a party to decorate for - massive stuff to haul in and set up.
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:52 AM
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yes; my point was that actions might be better directed, and that politics is a distraction from them.
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Old 04-23-2015, 11:33 AM
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Big challenge of the Cruz campaign: achieve the same upward tick in the polls that the candidates who arent actually in the race achieve. Waiting breathlessly for this to happen.
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