What the World Sees as Apostolic

[tv1a]

There is more reality in Alice in Wonderland than the myth portrayed in this in this post. Keep believing most people think apostolics are God fearing people. Keep believing your televisions are moitors. Keep believing the internet is less harmful than television. Make up some hypothetical what ifs. It's what your movement prides itself on.

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Back to the original post.

Can you imagine the direction this thread would have went IF this would have been the original post?



I was speaking to a religious person today and the topic came up about what the difference is between apostolic and pentecostal. I asked her what she though apostolic meant and she ran down this list....

1. Dresses
2. Uncut Hair
3. No make-up
4. No television

She equates apostolics with uncompromising separation from the world. She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a mean spirited person, but a believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost.

She reinforces what a vast majority of people think about apostolics. There are some who are intellectually dishonest and would want to question the intelligence of this person, but she is a college graduate, has owned a business, and is a very active member of her church.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by tv1a

There is more reality in Alice in Wonderland than the myth portrayed in this in this post. Keep believing most people think apostolics are God fearing people. Keep believing your televisions are moitors. Keep believing the internet is less harmful than television. Make up some hypothetical what ifs. It's what your movement prides itself on.

Just as I suspected.

Trash conservatives with faulty reasoning.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by tv1a

There is more reality in Alice in Wonderland than the myth portrayed in this in this post. Keep believing most people think apostolics are God fearing people. Keep believing your televisions are moitors. Keep believing the internet is less harmful than television. Make up some hypothetical what ifs. It's what your movement prides itself on.

now, when you say "YOUR MOVEMENT", are you saying that you yourself are not also Apostolic ???

I differ with you if you are saying that most people believe apostolics are not God fearing, law abiding, loyal to our country etc .. type of people.
I do have a problem with those who say the internet is harmless. I work for a church and grew up in a pastor's home. seen Too too much to ever buy that

[tv1a]

Just as I suspected. You can deflect the truth, but you can't handle the truth. THe dilusion of legalism has been around for over 2000 years. Can't explain the hit and run tactics. Keep making random statements without backing them up. At least my comments are rooted in reality.

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Just as I suspected.

Trash conservatives with faulty reasoning.

[tv1a]

Thad,
I'll save you time from extracting my views which are scattere all over the place. I would suggest if have time, please read the first post of this thread. It may explain the perception of apostolics to the general public and give you an idea of why the thread was started.

What that lady observed about apostolics is a common observation in the four corners of the earth.

The word apostolic is not defined in the Bible. THe only definitions we have are made man definitions based on personal perspective of that apostolic should mean.

Some labels that are clearly defined in the Bible are believers, disciples, christians and sinners.

As evident by this thread and others on similar topics labelling oneself as an apostolic only serves to gratify the ego. An apostolic identity doesn't mean anything to God.

Since apostolic is a self serving label with no biblical definition, I cannot in all good conciense say I am an apostolic. There is nothing in scripture that says this makes one apostolic.quote=Thad;122884]now, when you say "YOUR MOVEMENT", are you saying that you yourself are not also Apostolic ???

I differ with you if you are saying that most people believe apostolics are God fearing, law abiding , loyal to our country etc .. type of people.
I do have a problem with those who say the internet is harmless. I work for a church and gerw up in a pastor's homw. seen Too too much to ever buy that[/quote]

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Thad,
I'll save you time from extracting my views which are scattere all over the place. I would suggest if have time, please read the first post of this thread. It may explain the perception of apostolics to the general public and give you an idea of why the thread was started.

What that lady observed about apostolics is a common observation in the four corners of the earth.

The word apostolic is not defined in the Bible. THe only definitions we have are made man definitions based on personal perspective of that apostolic should mean.

Some labels that are clearly defined in the Bible are believers, disciples, christians and sinners.

As evident by this thread and others on similar topics labelling oneself as an apostolic only serves to gratify the ego. An apostolic identity doesn't mean anything to God.

Since apostolic is a self serving label with no biblical definition, I cannot in all good conciense say I am an apostolic. There is nothing in scripture that says this makes one apostolic.quote=Thad;122884]now, when you say "YOUR MOVEMENT", are you saying that you yourself are not also Apostolic ???

I differ with you if you are saying that most people believe apostolics are God fearing, law abiding , loyal to our country etc .. type of people.
I do have a problem with those who say the internet is harmless. I work for a church and gerw up in a pastor's homw. seen Too too much to ever buy that

[/QUOTE]

Then you are NOT an Apostolic?????????????????????

[tv1a]

I refuse to define my relationship with Christ with a self-serving subjective label. I'll save that for people who need the crutch of a label to carve out an identity.

Originally Posted by Nina

Brother,

Do You know anything about the UPC's Mennonite
seminar that was held a couple years ago?

That must have been interesting.

How do You teach true Holiness to Mennonites?

Nina

What about the LDS groups who are polygamist . They look Apostolic/ Pentecostals, when we first moved to UT our neighbors thought we were apart of a LDS polygamist . When we sat down and talk to them they had no ideal what an Apostolic/ Pentecost looked like. So I rather not look or be mistaken as a LDS polygamist ~




mother and child near the polygamist colony

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CupCake

What about the LDS groups who are polygamist . They look Apostolic/ Pentecostals, when we first moved to UT our neighbors thought we were apart of a LDS polygamist . When we sat down and talk to them they had no ideal what an Apostolic/ Pentecost looked like. So I rather not look or be mistaken as a LDS polygamist ~




mother and child near the polygamist colony

We have Weslyean groups here that dress according to Biblical edicts but are NOT saved because that have not been born again and some look better than some Pentecostals in the area. However folks do know they profess Christ by their look even though they may not. So the polygamist look godly and are not everyone looked like that 75 years ago.

Originally Posted by rrford

You have little scriptural understanding and make too many assumptions.

Further, your repsonse basically calls me accursed. WHy am I not surprised?

First I didn't accuse you of anything, I ASK FOR YOU TO GIVE PROOF WHERE THE BIBLE TEACHES SUCH A MESSAGE!

So wise one give scripture for this teaching of outward clothing as God sign and salvation one at that ???

Not a good thing when you add and take from the word~YOU REALLY DO TEACH ANOTHER WAY, ANOTHER GOSPEL~

Last, I'm not surprise~ GoodDay~