**preacher forums**

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Because it was handled behind the scenes and not discussed openly on NFCF or AFF.

And I agree that is the way it is to be handled........and it was/has been on the "unnamed" forum as well.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by bishoph

And I agree that is the way it is to be handled........and it was/has been on the "unnamed" forum as well.

Not everything.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Charnock has every reason to feel like he does.

Because I'm his friend????

[aegsm76]

So, let me try to understand this.
Is it one person that Charnock has an issue with?

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

So, let me try to understand this.
Is it one person that Charnock has an issue with?

No.

Several.

[MissBrattified]

As far as Charnock goes--I've only heard really good things--from family.

I may be re-examining my response to this thread. I'm not for dragging people out into the open for stoning, but at the same time...well. Some situations and some people are really very surprising.

I don't know WHY it's surprising; I've been raised in church; nothing should surprise me. Least of all the GOBC.

[deacon blues]

All I know is this: I DO NOT rejoice over the fall of ANY person, preacher or not. All sin is the same with regards to eternal consequence. Not all sins carry the same consequence here on earth. There is a level of shame and disgust attached to sexual sins that goes to the core of those involved and to those impacted by those choices.

Marriage/family/sexuality was instituted by God as the first act of creation after He said that His creation was "very good". The relationship of husband and wife, father and children, mother and children runs to very essence of our genetics. "Bone of bone and flesh of flesh." When people are committed to the covenant of marriage/family/sexuality God's design works beautifully. When broken, the results are devastating.

When a person commits sexual sin it reverberates for so many people. I'm sure its why it carries such a stigma. Proverbs says that the one who commits adultery carries something that is never forgotten by those harmed by the sin.

Whatever the case, the person who commits such acts pays for their sin many times over be it their guilty conscience, from their spouse, with their children or other family and friends who feel betrayed by the acts of immorality. Jesus can and does deliver people from sexual sins and the consequences associated, but it is a long hard climb that takes time, patience, grace and mercy.

Some recent failures of pastors is tragic and should serve to remind us that all of us are broken and need the salvation only Jesus can give. We should repent of our own secret sins, our self righteousness and our pride. May none of us be guilty of rumor mongering, slander or failing to extend mercy where it is needed. One day we are going to need the Body of Christ to extend mercy to us.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

All I know is this: I DO NOT rejoice over the fall of ANY person, preacher or not. All sin is the same with regards to eternal consequence. Not all sins carry the same consequence here on earth. There is a level of shame and disgust attached to sexual sins that goes to the core of those involved and to those impacted by those choices.

Marriage/family/sexuality was instituted by God as the first act of creation after He said that His creation was "very good". The relationship of husband and wife, father and children, mother and children runs to very essence of our genetics. "Bone of bone and flesh of flesh." When people are committed to the covenant of marriage/family/sexuality God's design works beautifully. When broken, the results are devastating.

When a person commits sexual sin it reverberates for so many people. I'm sure its why it carries such a stigma. Proverbs says that the one who commits adultery carries something that is never forgotten by those harmed by the sin.

Whatever the case, the person who commits such acts pays for their sin many times over be it their guilty conscience, from their spouse, with their children or other family and friends who feel betrayed by the acts of immorality. Jesus can and does deliver people from sexual sins and the consequences associated, but it is a long hard climb that takes time, patience, grace and mercy.

Some recent failures of pastors is tragic and should serve to remind us that all of us are broken and need the salvation only Jesus can give. We should repent of our own secret sins, our self righteousness and our pride. May none of us be guilty of rumor mongering, slander or failing to extend mercy where it is needed. One day we are going to need the Body of Christ to extend mercy to us.

Great Post! I concur

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

All I know is this: I DO NOT rejoice over the fall of ANY person, preacher or not. All sin is the same with regards to eternal consequence. Not all sins carry the same consequence here on earth. There is a level of shame and disgust attached to sexual sins that goes to the core of those involved and to those impacted by those choices.

Marriage/family/sexuality was instituted by God as the first act of creation after He said that His creation was "very good". The relationship of husband and wife, father and children, mother and children runs to very essence of our genetics. "Bone of bone and flesh of flesh." When people are committed to the covenant of marriage/family/sexuality God's design works beautifully. When broken, the results are devastating.

When a person commits sexual sin it reverberates for so many people. I'm sure its why it carries such a stigma. Proverbs says that the one who commits adultery carries something that is never forgotten by those harmed by the sin.

Whatever the case, the person who commits such acts pays for their sin many times over be it their guilty conscience, from their spouse, with their children or other family and friends who feel betrayed by the acts of immorality. Jesus can and does deliver people from sexual sins and the consequences associated, but it is a long hard climb that takes time, patience, grace and mercy.

Some recent failures of pastors is tragic and should serve to remind us that all of us are broken and need the salvation only Jesus can give. We should repent of our own secret sins, our self righteousness and our pride. May none of us be guilty of rumor mongering, slander or failing to extend mercy where it is needed. One day we are going to need the Body of Christ to extend mercy to us.

[Cindy]

It harms the body of Christ when anyone falls.