Rare Sister Charlotte Testimony - tortured nun

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I met Charlotte the first time in Texaco NM. Then again when she came to our church in Calif. It was her practice to have a ladies only night where she would partially disrobe. There was no doubt according to my wife and mother she was beaten very badly as her body was covered with scars.

[jacko]

I was logged in and I had written a long post to answer all your questions but when I went to post I was told I wasn´t logged in so I lost it, I sincerely hope you are not going to cut me off?

Unfortunately I hadn´t saved my post so, if I'm allowed back on this site I will have to leave it for another day.

[jacko]

OK, you want to know how I did my research and how I came to the conclusions that I did!

First of all, I have been doing family research for over 10 years so have acquired some knowledge and experience in this field over time.

The only information I had to go on to begin my research was the data supplied in Charlotte’s death record which I am posting here so everyone can understand what I’m talking about.

https://familysearch.org/‎
Charlotte Keckler
United States Social Security Death Index birth: 12 April 1898
death: September 1983 Napa, California

Given Name Charlotte
Middle Name
Surname Keckler
Name Suffix
Birth Date 12 April 1898
Social Security Number 261-58-5764
State Florida
Last Place of Residence Napa, California
Previous Residence Postal Code 94558
Event Date September 1983
Age 85



Last Name First Name Middle Birth Date Mother Maiden Father Last Sex Birth Place Death Place Residence Death Date SSN Age Post-ems Order
Record
KECKLER CHARLOTTE EDNA 04/12/1898 TRIGGS F IOWA NAPA
09/28/1983 261-58-5764
85 yrs Add



www.ancestry.com

Charlotte Edna Keckler, "California, Death Index, 1940-1997"
Name: Charlotte Edna Keckler
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 28 Sep 1983
Event Place: Napa, California, United States
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1898
Birthplace: Iowa
Gender: Female
Father's Name:
Mother's Name: Triggs

I entered this data in the search engine on every family research site I could find for the USA with no results which coincide with other people’s research who tried to track this lady down. This is exceptionally rare and strange that you get absolutely no returns for neither births, marriages, census, etc.
The golden rule in genealogy is when you get no results with the names you have to branch out into alternative spellings, which I did and no returns again. Then I deleted her first name and that´s where I got the 1900 census which gives April 1898, as birth date and Iowa as birth place which correspond exactly with Charlotte’s death record’s data. Also the first name was Edna and coincides with Charlotte’s second name with an “n” added on.

Then I went on to look for a marriage for a William Cackler & a Cora B. and bingo Cora´s surname was Triggs, once again this squares up with the death record. From there I went on to look for all census with corroborative evidence i.e. parents & children’s names, places of birth and ages that more or less square up as ages on census records are usually very unreliable as most people didn’t know their real age as it was very seldom required back then, I have always found that the age on the census nearest to birth usually gives the correct estimate of birth year!

[COLOR="rgb(0, 100, 0)"]I am convinced that all this corroborative evidence proves beyond a doubt that Charlotte Keckler & Rhoda Edna Cackler is one and the same person.
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From there I was able to go on to further research. Ancestry.com has 17 online family trees with this family in it and you can find more on line family trees if you Google the parent´s names.
I hope I have made myself clear and understandable, if not please don´t hesitate to ask.

[Disciple4life]

Jacko,
Are you Catholic? Or do you work for the Catholic Church in any capacity?

[Disciple4life]

Originally Posted by jacko

What in my post makes you presume I'm a catholic and trying to cover up for the Catholic church?

Asking a question doesn't answer a question.

[jacko]

No, I am not catholic nor do I have anything to do with the Catholic Church.

However does your question imply that my painstaking and serious research is to be judged by the colour of my skin (so to speak) rather than the merit of the evidence it presents?

That implication probably didn't even enter your head when you wrote it, even so, I’m really glad you asked it because it’s a perfect reflection of the hypocritical political correct society in which we live, (no personal offence to Diciple4life). We are all the unfortunate products of the society we live in which is so clogged up with fog that very often we can’t reason like rational human beings, instead we get carried along by the tide and tend to judge people by the colour of their skin, their race, their church or whatever rather than their personal merits!

My greatest respects to Pastor Blume, he came out straight and said he had no way to prove Charlotte’s story, it takes a bigger man to do that, I take my hat off to you Sir!

If a story is true it should be able to stand up to any scrutiny.

I don`t think it could ever be acceptable for Christians to sell truth for lies nor vice versa and that is what is the whole aim of this discussion, so let’s not get side-tracked.

[Disciple4life]

Jacko,

Thanks for the answer. If you had posted here more than once I probably would not have even asked.

You probably have some questions of your own. I love all people including Catholics. We as Christians are called to love everybody regardless of their skin color or their current walk with God.

All abuse should be looked into. All people who make accusations should be looked into. We should not just believe people because of our own prejudice.

[Sister Alvear]

There are those that say Richard Wurmbrand was a fraud.....but he was not...

[Disciple4life]

I want to know if Alberto Rivera is for real.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by jacko

Charlotte Keckler was a fraud and a professional liar as the following data proves beyond a doubt.

Charlotte Edna Keckler was born Rhoda Edna Cackler April 12th 1898 in Lucas Co. Iowa to her parents William Henry Cackler & Cora Belle Triggs. Her parents married April 18th 1888 in Spencer, Clay, Iowa and they had 9 children, four boys & five girls, Charlotte ( Rhoda) was the fifth in line. Charlotte was named after her paternal grandmother who was Rhoda Charlotte Porter and used her grandmother’s second name for her fictitious name along with a corrupted version of her family name.

The family was definitely not catholic as Charlotte’s grandmother divorced her husband, and Charlotte’s grandfather’s brother also divorced and remarried. Apparently Charlotte’s grandparents on both sides moved to Lucas Co. to settle it. They were of some Protestant denomination, perhaps Lutherans? So all her rant of “I was reared in a devout Roman Catholic home” is completely false. If Charlotte had been reared a catholic she would know perfectly well that the teachings she declares are catholic as regards telling lies and robbing up to $40 are totally false and a medieval invention by Protestant Churches to discredit the Catholic Church.

William, Cora and their first five children (Charlotte aged 2) were living in Doyle Township Hopeville town, Clarke, Iowa on the 1900 census.

By 1910 they had moved to Wolf River, Doniphan, Kansas. The next two children after Charlotte were born in Missouri and the last two were born in Kansas. (Charlotte is age 12 on this census).
On the 1920 census the family is at Hiawatha, Brown, Kansas, and Charlotte is 21. The family name is miss transcribed as Cacler.

In 1925 according to Kansas State census Charlotte is still in Kansas.

The 1930 census finds her parents and her youngest sibling in Sabetha, Nemaha, Kansas.
And Charlotte was in Hiawatha, Brown County, Kansas age 30, should be 32 in 1930! working at a hospital and as a bookkeeper.

So how does this lady manage to be with her parents until 1925 and at the same time declares she had been locked away in a convent since 1910 With difficulty I would think!

According to the 1940 census, Charlotte was living in Moline, Rock Island, Illinois in 1935.

The following is the information on her 1940 census record and her name is Rhoda C. Keckler, this is the first reference to having changed her surname.
She was lodging and lived at 19th Street, Moline, Rock Island, Illinois
High school 4th year, nurse, age 34, (42 would be correct) why did she lie about her age?

Her Uncle John Cackler lived in Moline ward 4, Rock Island, Ill. On the 1920 & 1930 census. This town was 400 miles from Sabetha, Nemaha, where Charlotte's’ father lived.

When her eldest brother died in 1975 Charlotte was named as Miss Rhoda Kackler and was in Napa California. He was a member of the Christian Church.

It is clear from all this data that Charlotte never left the USA for any length of time and was never locked away in a convent.

This guy claims “I helped publish the book Charlotte wrote, FROM CONVENT TO PENTECOST. She was in a convent in Quebec, Canada. Charlotte WAS a Carmelite nun. She would not say it was in Canada during her testimony. But it was.”
Sorry to say the first Carmelite convent in Quebec, Canada was founded from USA in 1877 and only lasted until 1877 due to lack of numbers and revenue. The sisters returned to USA. The second attempt was made in 1951 and was a success, so that couldn't be true!

The census may not have picked up that she had gone to the convent, may have still considered her a part of her father's household. Then she did return to her fathers house for a time after her first escape. The information on the census is not the most accurate in the world.

Her facts could have been distorted to some extent due to the context, of pain and suffering.

I don't have scientific evidence, but with other stories that have come out, and then the current abuse by priests, it is not a stretch to believe her story. There was evidence that she had been badly abused in her physical body, at least the ladies agreed that she had.