Obey Them that Rule???

[ILG]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Okay, I agree with you. There are some deal-breakers. If I believed someone was being taught false doctrine*, I would tell them so. With no qualms or second thoughts. Further, if I thought they were truly being abused by their leadership or if the church were a cult* I would say so.

Abi's personal definitions for clarification of my point -

*false doctrine - any doctrine which would ultimately or immediately lead to disobedience to God, and the loss of their soul.

*cult - any group in which the leader is unaccountable to anyone but himself, and preaches false doctrine, abuses his authority and the people under his authority and shares dangerous concepts and doctrines.

I hesitate to even make these types of posts, because I think the labels of "abusive", "cult", and "false doctrine" are bandied about way to liberally and those who apply them without careful evaluation and analysis risk judging that which is godly as ungodly, and displeasing God as a result.

For the question in mind, I would like to bring it a little closer to home. Because you no doubt believe yourself to not attend a church that either teaches false doctrine or is a cult. I was referring to a church that you attended. I am not trying to pick on your pastor or your situation personally, but to just put out a hypothetical situation for debate and as food for thought as to what a person might do in this type of situation.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

So before you sit back and stick out your chest and pontificate about how ignorant your pastor's advice to someone or decision about something is, bear in mind that just might not know all the facts.

Was someone sticking out their chest and pontificating? If so, I didn't notice it.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

My error, sis. The status quo is the current landscape of religiosity, which includes the "competitive holiness" I see in certain OP factions. I have not read Actaeon's post, I was responding to the blind "amens" so prevalent because no one will say "the emperor has no clothes".

For info. It was a blind amen. I was amening the scripture he used. Why not try going back and read the scripture that was quoted?

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Whole Hearted is another anim......er....person.....LOL!

And just what is this post suppose to mean?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

Was someone sticking out their chest and pontificating? If so, I didn't notice it.

I don't know if anyone was--but I know some do.

I said, "Before you...."

It was a preemptive statement.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I don't know if anyone was--but I know some do.

I said, "Before you...."

It was a preemptive statement.

Okay, it sounded rather accusatory. This may be why we frequently butt heads.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

Okay, it sounded rather accusatory. This may be why we frequently butt heads.

It is probably just conviction.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It is probably just conviction.

LOL! Yes, just like you are greatly smitten when people write about abusive pastors.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

LOL! Yes, just like you are greatly smitten when people write about abusive pastors.

Greatly smitten?

ROFL!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Greatly smitten?

ROFL!

Well, that's about how smitten I am when you write stuff about people pontificating. (About as smitten as you are when people write about abusive pastors.)

I know you have seen people swell up and pontificate but I also have seen many people hurt by false accusations. So I appreciate the clarification.