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Old 12-03-2008, 11:41 PM
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It's illegal to drive with a loaded weapon in many states. I think it is also considered illegal to carry it in the car and or not in some sort of transport case.
Ahhh... good point, I stand corrected.

I forget some o yall live in those commie socialist states.


Well..... In NORTH CAROLINA it is perfectly legal. so nyaaah nyahhh.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:44 PM
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What I was saying is that it was wrong for the shooter to shoot the driver, but I understand how he could have made the decision to do it.

I have not been contradictory.
Yeah, and I can understand how he would WANT to do it.
I cannot understand why he would MAKE THE DECISION to do it.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:48 PM
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It is equally insulting to ignore the fact that some war veterans have a difficult time adjusting to civilian life. This is a well documented fact. There are some municipalities that have special trials and give special consideration for war veterans who become law breakers to help rehabilitate them, instead of "throwing the book" at them.
On this I agree, but that is a matter for the courts, it still does not justify the action IMO. A lesser sentence due to such issues may very well be the right thing to do, but it doesnt make it any less of a crime. It just may result in a lesser charge.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:01 AM
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Incredible...both actions were wrong doing, yet you can only assume ONE of them was having a bad day? Shoot someone and get away with it if you were just having a bad day!

This guy was uninjured. They other guy was shot and his window blow into pieces and you hope he does not get caught...wow.

What if the driver was killed by that bullet....that's murder no matter how you spell it. His action was not even reciprocal. Pull up next to the guy and flip him off...brandish a gun and scare him (I don't approve of those) but seriously wound a driver with a hand gun and you are ok with that? Now don't say you are not ok with it and then say you hope he does not get caught and that the other guy deserved it. That just sounds disengenuine. That is your contradiction.
I must go on the record and say that in my opinion, brandishing a gun to scare them in that sort if situation is criminal, it can very easily be taken as a threat on ones life with a deadly weapon. In some states that may very well be legal justification to "shoot back".

How many police officer shootings have you heard of where someone was shot because they were holding a toy gun? Make it a real gun, and you have a justified self defense case.

I am of the opinion that you should never pull it unless you intend to shoot it.
If that home breaker, mugger, psychopath makes me pull it, he should be prepared to dodge incoming .45 hollow points.

Pulling a gun and "showing it" is one tiny fraction of a second from shooting at me with it.
I most likely will not let him have that fraction to show me he's just showing off as it would be a self deffense issue from there. The one being "shown" the weapon has no idea that the guy isn't about to shoot him, and should be taking that moment to seek cover and fire back.


Prax, I know you didn't condone that. I'm just making the comment.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:18 AM
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1) If this was out of character for you, would you want to be caught and dealt with publicly? It would be better for this guy to turn himself in. If he is caught, he would have many more bad days ahead. He too should be given the opportunity to learn and move on, speculating that this is a good guy that made a bad decision.
It's out of character for the law abiding citizen and husband who comes home, sees his wife in bed with another man, snaps, and shoots the guy and his wife with a shotgun too. But he should still be prosecuted.
Why? because he did wrong, he broke the law. Doesn't matter that every spouse who's been cheated on can "feel his pain". He still should be prosecuted.
Same with your poor little innocent school teacher who happened to have enough of bad drivers and decided to try murdering one.
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He is responsible for his own actions, but this was not unprovoked. Charging him with attempted murder will never address the fact that he was provoked by the idiot driver.
It will address the fact that he shot and possibly attempted to murder a fellow human being.
Provoked or not, he was wrong.
I agree with you that idiot drivers should face penalties. I can't stand them either. But they shouldn't be shot over it.

Charging him is not designed to address the idiot driver, its designed to address the idiot shooter.
Addressing the idiot driver is another matter completely.


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It's preposterous for some to think this, but what if it was the will of God for this to happen to the idiot driver? He really could have died in all of this, but God allowed him to learn a lesson instead-- that's if he learns from this.
I somehow think that with God, having all power, and knowing all things, he could have come up with a more creative way of getting the message across than having another man commit a sin to do it.

Just my opinion.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:24 AM
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I just love all the idiots who ignore the "merge: lane ending" signs and speed past all us poor schmucks then try to jump in at the marquee arrow. I do everything in my power to make them wait.
LOL yeah, boy it really irks em when thier own private lane (the shoulder of the road) somehow gets blocked by somone trying to "see what the holdup is"
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:27 AM
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3) I referred to this incident as possible "poetic justice"-- a terrible driver reaping what he has sown. However, I never said the shooter was right for shooting the guy. Wrong is still wrong.

4) Fact is, the shooter was provoked by an idiot. I am glad the idiot survived and I hope the shooter is never caught.
So wrong should go unpunished?
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Old 12-04-2008, 08:22 AM
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So wrong should go unpunished?

Wrong never goes unpunished.

I'd rather see God deal with him than to see him be dealt with by the courts.
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Wrong never goes unpunished.

I'd rather see God deal with him than to see him be dealt with by the courts.
Uh. OK. How do you think God will deal with him? Just wondering. I would guess that if the guy was just doing God's will, He may just reward him? Maybe buy him a new Glock or something?
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:58 AM
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Uh. OK. How do you think God will deal with him? Just wondering. I would guess that if the guy was just doing God's will, He may just reward him? Maybe buy him a new Glock or something?


Funny!

Serious response is I'm not sure. I don't have all the answers, I only have opinions.

Maybe God will use the U.S. court system to mete out His justice.

The main thing for me is that I DO UNDERSTAND how a person can do what he did-- don't agree with it, but I am empathetic.
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