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Old 09-04-2008, 02:00 PM
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Right on the money on everything Ferd, but I'd disagree on it being the dems to lose. I believe this election will be very close. 60 days out, I can't see anything but a toss up.

You nailed it with the swing vote. As they go, so goes the election. McCain has to go much farther to the middle and appeal to mod's tonight. McCain's biggest job after Palin last night, is trying to seperate himself from the last 8 years of the Bush administration. If he can do that well enough, he wins. Game over, IMO.
you are right on what McCain has to do. that has been his job since he picked Palin.


on how this elction turns out....
there is one single over riding factor.

No party has won the white house when the sitting president was from that party and has an approval rating below 50%.... GWBs is in the mid 30's.


that is the single most important fact in this election. a democrat loss would be devistating to them.
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is this the standard that dissappointed you about both Joe Biden's speech and Barak Obama's?
To be honest with you I didn't really watch their speeches.
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I felt your pain in the last rew years Tstew. Let me personally invite you to vote them both out and vote for Bob Barr. http://www.bobbarr2008.com/ That's probably where I'm headed for the first time.

If your sick of both parties and are a true fiscal and social conservative, it's an option. I'm past the spin of both Repubs and Dems.
to bad, what a waste, lol
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That's right he was fired.

But I don't know if I agree the DUI, and the firing of her BIL is common knowledge as most of us never heard of Palin until last week--honestly there had to be some digging, especially with that old DUI violation.


You know, I can't say that I am not throughly convinced that "A" Dem and not "The" Dems are behind the smeer champaign. I think politics are just that tough in the ring period.
No I meant that they were already issues being widely discussed or known previously and became national when she did (Particularly in the case of the firing). I was just saying that it wasn't as if investigators had to go dig up and produce these things.
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to bad, what a waste, lol
At some point, when both parties leave what you believe in, it's time to stop supporting them just because.

I'm not a James Dobson type, who says I believe in certain things, and then end up supporting people I said "no way" too earlier.

As a voter it's their job to come to me, right?
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To be honest, I hadn't even heard or read about the husband's DUI in the things that I have been reading.
And it is a particularly hard sale that the report was done at the behest of Obama or even the DNC, since it was done while she was still mayor of Wasilla and basically unknown.
hey, i agree with you that hanging that on the DNC or BO is hard. but that isnt the hurdle. the hurdle has been lept.

all that has to be done is convince the R base, and the swing voters that the media has done it... and this has already been done.
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I felt your pain in the last rew years Tstew. Let me personally invite you to vote them both out and vote for Bob Barr. http://www.bobbarr2008.com/ That's probably where I'm headed for the first time.

If your sick of both parties and are a true fiscal and social conservative, it's an option. I'm past the spin of both Repubs and Dems.
It is blind partisanship that has us in a position that will keep this from happening. If we don't get rid of that, then nothing substantive will be done about the things that we deeply care about. Many conversatives will vote for someone without getting any assurabce that they will do what we want about immigration...yet we will continue to gripe about it.
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To be honest with you I didn't really watch their speeches.
i would suggest you read them before suggesting that Palin should have been "above the fray"


bro, she is in the fray and the VPs job is to be the tip of the spear.
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true dat ferd, dt
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bro, she is in the fray
Boy I'll say. So much for having to be delicate and tippy toe around her.

She brought that wood last night.
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