Witchcraft = medication

[Cindy]

Well I couldn't find chapter and verse for wether Luke prescribed meds or made them, which are two different things. But I also couldn't find chapter and verse that he didn't.

Originally Posted by clgustaveson

Look, I don't care.

People get mad, Jesus got mad. We make mistakes and people say stuff that should be taken back. I don't take back what I say because I am a real person and I don't play games like that.

Which is worse, to attempt to accuse one of sinning and judging or getting mad?

You basically said I was mad and sinned. I don't see a scripture in the Bible stating anger or frustration is a sin, nor I do I see it describing calling someone actions a sin. I did call him a punk but when did that actually become a valid name to call someone?

The others were descriptions of actions not name calling.

Please back up take a breath and examine what you are doing before you act like that.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

This is the kind of erroneous conclusions people can fall into when they find a Greek word that is related to a modern day word (even if the original word has multiple meaning in different contexts)... and then try to apply one of the meanings of the original word to the modern day usage of the related modern-day word... and then try to create a link between the 2 very different word meanings (old and modern) by using the word linkage as a bridge between the two totally unrelated meanings.

Not only is it a terribly unsound practice, but that kind of exegesis can provide, and has provided in some cases, an undergirding [and badly flawed] foundation for some of the worst false doctrines we have today.

Right. Etymology 101.

[Praxeas]

What do you think they did in the bible when someone received a wound on the battle field? Prayer meeting? No they applied balms and other medicines. They had nothing to do with the occult.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

That isn't a game, gustav. That's called humility. If you're out of line, be big enough to say you're sorry and don't do it again.



1. I didn't accuse you of sinning.
2. You asked for scripture, and I provided it. "Be angry and sin not."



Alrighty then.



Back up? Take a breath? LOL!!! Are you under the impression that I am out of breath? Or even slightly bothered?

Of course I've lost my temper before. And I had to [wo]man up and apologize for it. Feeling anger is not a sin. It's how you act on it that matters.

But, hey, I've put in my 2 cents. You're not required to listen, are you? It's a free country. (But not necessarily a Free Forum)

You're asking for a miracle Sister.

Originally Posted by Rico

Where do the pharmaceutical companies go in search for new medicines? It's the Amazon, and places like that, correct? Who do they go to to find out what medicines these natives use and how they make them? The medicine men and witch doctors, correct? That's because the medicine men and witch doctors are the ones who treat these natives' illnesses, correct? Do you still want to insist that pharmacology doesn't have its roots in medicine men and witch doctors? You are only fooling yourselves because that is exactly where it came from.

Amen Brother!!!! It's denial all the way.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Oneness Man

Where are physicans that gave medications in Old Testament times and what were the medications did they give?

Witchcraft has to do with more than the spirit world according to the Bible.

I already posted on this a while ago.

They used balms and other herbs for medicines
The love-fruits, “mandrakes” (Gen_30:14) and “caperberry” (Ecc_12:5 margin), myrrh, anise, rue, cummin, the “oil and wine” of the Good Samaritan, soap and sodic carbonate (“natron,” called by mistake “nitre”) as cleansers, and Hezekiah's “fig poultice” nearly exhaust the catalogue.

BALM is a medicine
Gen 43:11 Then their father Israel said to them, "If it must be so, then do this: take some of the choice fruits of the land in your bags, and carry a present down to the man, a little balm and a little honey, gum, myrrh, pistachio nuts, and almonds.

Jer 8:22 Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why then has the health of the daughter of my people not been restored?

Eze 27:17 Judah and the land of Israel traded with you; they exchanged for your merchandise wheat of Minnith, meal, honey, oil, and balm.

Originally Posted by clgustaveson

I think you are not letting go of what you need to let go... lol you just wont admit you were being to judgmental.

There are no roots, even in the Bible they are completely different fields.

Why don't you admit that you're completely wrong?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

Where do the pharmaceutical companies go in search for new medicines? It's the Amazon, and places like that, correct? Who do they go to to find out what medicines these natives use and how they make them? The medicine men and witch doctors, correct? That's because the medicine men and witch doctors are the ones who treat these natives' illnesses, correct? Do you still want to insist that pharmacology doesn't have its roots in medicine men and witch doctors? You are only fooling yourselves because that is exactly where it came from.

This is not entirely true. They study herbs and other things that have shown promising relief for certain conditions and then see how they can use it and improve it. They study it as a science. They don't do voodoo incantations. God made this planet and the herbs.

Most of the time they are just studying compounds in a lab, not out dancing sky clad with native witch doctors

[TRFrance]

If this man thanks that modern day pharmacology can be reasonably compared with witchcraft/sorcery of Biblical times, there's probably little or nothing anyone can say to convince him otherwise, at least not any time soon. Hopefully the Lord will open his eyes on this matter, in due time.