Should Dan stay or go?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Amen! I just stumbled across this site a few days ago by accident and honestly did not intend to hang around, but I'm hooked! Really a great group of people here, even if many of us disagree theologically on different issues.

However, I, like Rico, must call it a night. I have to be at the church at 7:30 in the morning and it's late, so good night all, be safe and God bless you in His abundant Grace.

Gratefully in His grip,
Preacher

Be blessed, Preach.

[El Predicador]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Okay. Because you say so.

God put up the borders around the nations?

This was in Genesis, right?

Go to sleep. You must be tired to be posting so off point.

You are the comparing the violation of a nation's sovereign law to protect its borders with God's law about killing the unborn.

Apples and oranges

[SDG]

Originally Posted by El Predicador

Go to sleep. You must be tired to be posting so off point.

You are the comparing the violation of a nation's sovereign law to protect its borders with God's law about killing the unborn.

Apples and oranges

And you have decided what is God's will for an individual's life based on your concept of what you think God's laws are ...

You my friend might be putting patriotism over Godly compassion ... something to ponder ...

Thank God for the blessings of this land. Be fruitful and multiply.

[El Predicador]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

And you have decided what is God's will for an individual's life based on your concept of what you think God's laws are ...

You my friend might be putting patriotism over Godly compassion ... something to ponder ...

Thank God for the blessings of this land. Be fruitful and multiply.

And you my friend have changed the topic.

Know who crosses your border without your knowledge is patriotism?


And I am all for aid to the starving, and godly compassion. Don't compare that to sneaking into another country illegally to earn more money.

How patronizing.

[BoJangles]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

If you have to go potty I don't think you need our permission.

Well sorry my attempt at a bad joke, just this place reminds me of grade school, instead of kicked off the island it should be kicked off the playground. Just an observation don't kill me.

[Brother Price]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Okay. Because you say so.

God put up the borders around the nations?

This was in Genesis, right?

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. {Romans 13:1-6}

Sorry Dan, but and I disagree on this issue. Coming here illegally is just that, illegal. It is the breaking of the laws of this land. And we do have borders to delineate the boundaries between our jurisdiction and those of another country's. But being an illegal is just that, an illegal, and the boundary is established by God's ordained authority, the ruling power of our nation, the Congress and the president. No way... NO WAY should we sacrifice national sovereignty for the cause of allowing this invasion to continue. And, yes, it is an invasion.

Right now, the Mexican flag flies more in some schools than the American flag. They no longer teach kids English in some schools, but Spanish. It is an invasion against culture, and against national sovereignty. This is not what my Dad fought and almost lost his life for, and it is not what the thousands upon thousands of our troops over the years have died and sacrificed for, so that we allow this silent invasion to continue.

Close the borders and secure our land.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. {Romans 13:1-6}

Sorry Dan, but and I disagree on this issue. Coming here illegally is just that, illegal. It is the breaking of the laws of this land. And we do have borders to delineate the boundaries between our jurisdiction and those of another country's. But being an illegal is just that, an illegal, and the boundary is established by God's ordained authority, the ruling power of our nation, the Congress and the president. No way... NO WAY should we sacrifice national sovereignty for the cause of allowing this invasion to continue. And, yes, it is an invasion.

Right now, the Mexican flag flies more in some schools than the American flag. They no longer teach kids English in some schools, but Spanish. It is an invasion against culture, and against national sovereignty. This is not what my Dad fought and almost lost his life for, and it is not what the thousands upon thousands of our troops over the years have died and sacrificed for, so that we allow this silent invasion to continue.

Close the borders and secure our land.

Bro Price,

I agree with you. We have to protect ourselves and our resources or we will have nothing to give or help with. It is frustrating when illegals come here and received governmental services that our own nationals cannot get when in need.

Blessings, Rhoni

[AmazingGrace]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro Price,

I agree with you. We have to protect ourselves and our resources or we will have nothing to give or help with. It is frustrating when illegals come here and received governmental services that our own nationals cannot get when in need.

Blessings, Rhoni

AMEN!!!!!!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro Price,

I agree with you. We have to protect ourselves and our resources or we will have nothing to give or help with. It is frustrating when illegals come here and received governmental services that our own nationals cannot get when in need.

Blessings, Rhoni

Exactly. The immigration issue is being treated like the civil rights issues were in the 70's and 80's. Back then if you opposed any civil rights legislation no matter how ill conceived it was you were labeled "racist".

Today if you oppose ILLEGAL immigration but support LEGAL immigration the media and pundits label you as OPPOSING IMMIGRATION.

It infuriates me because I do support immigration, just not illegal uncontrolled immigration.

By our government, Federal, State, and local (think "sanctuary cities") ignoring the law and refusing to enforce it they are just reinforcing in people the concept that laws, rules, etc don't matter. That is not a good message to send.

[El Predicador]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. {Romans 13:1-6}

Sorry Dan, but and I disagree on this issue. Coming here illegally is just that, illegal. It is the breaking of the laws of this land. And we do have borders to delineate the boundaries between our jurisdiction and those of another country's. But being an illegal is just that, an illegal, and the boundary is established by God's ordained authority, the ruling power of our nation, the Congress and the president. No way... NO WAY should we sacrifice national sovereignty for the cause of allowing this invasion to continue. And, yes, it is an invasion.

Right now, the Mexican flag flies more in some schools than the American flag. They no longer teach kids English in some schools, but Spanish. It is an invasion against culture, and against national sovereignty. This is not what my Dad fought and almost lost his life for, and it is not what the thousands upon thousands of our troops over the years have died and sacrificed for, so that we allow this silent invasion to continue.

Close the borders and secure our land.

Bro Price,

I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY with the FIRST part of your post. Illegal is illegal.

The second part however I have somewhat of a problem. Personally I would not care if so many of my fellow Hispanic brethren were here that Spanish became the primary language. America needs immigration as do most industrialized countries. However, unlike the muslims legally invading Europe the Spanish culture is often much family oriented and godly than the Anglo one. If American goes Latin so be it. As long as they come in legally.