End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Nope. Wrong one RJR. Still looking for the one "woman thou shalt not preach"

You know, I know you guys take this serious, and of course, I know the issue is a serious one.

But really... doesn't anyone see that what we are really on is a battle of personal interpretation over a couple of scriptures where culture, translation, and interpretation surely plays a huge role in its concept?

Can't you guys accept that some understand the passages differently than you? You surely don't have a "thou shalt" or "thou shalt not" in clear verbiage, instead having only proof for your concept using translations that might have one word in the definition that speaks to your case.

So... anyway, my point in all this is just to say.... it's become comical. That's all.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by RJR

[RJR]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

You know, I know you guys take this serious, and of course, I know the issue is a serious one.

But really... doesn't anyone see that what we are really on is a battle of personal interpretation over a couple of scriptures where culture, translation, and interpretation surely plays a huge role in its concept?

Can't you guys accept that some understand the passages differently than you? You surely don't have a "thou shalt" or "thou shalt not" in clear verbiage, instead having only proof for your concept using translations that might have one word in the definition that speaks to your case.

So... anyway, my point in all this is just to say.... it's become comical. That's all.

If this was accurate it would be one thing. Precedent has to factor in somewhere, such as no OT female priest, no female Apostles (upon whose teaching he would build the church) chosen by The Lord, no qualifications for female bishops and deacons. Besides the fact no logical explanation has been offered for 1 Tim 2:11-12, the only one offered so far has been this is referencing a husband and wife. Which apparently only single women could then teach, or it would require the married woman to be silent in the very place Paul in 1 Cor 14 tells her to ask.

It may be comical in that we are insistent on these very transparent passages, but we are insistent, because some are insistently trying to misrepresent them.

[RJR]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

[Sister Alvear]

No scripture yet....because it is not there...

[Sister Alvear]

It is ironic that people twist Paul's words "I do not permit a woman to teach" (1 Tim. 2:12, NKJV) in order to make a blanket prohibition against women teaching men, when in 2 Timothy 1:5 Paul commends Lois and Eunice for teaching Timothy the faith!....

Yes, and go study what age a male was considered a man....



Women teach in every church...a song, in testimony of how they trusted God for something...women teach SS school classes and even pray in loud voices....they cannot find a scripture saying women do not preach....they want to make one say something it does not say...

[Sister Alvear]

It happens that the early church setup was far different from most churches today....

[Sister Alvear]

New International Version
What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up.

New Living Translation
Well, my brothers and sisters, let's summarize. When you meet together, one will sing, another will teach, another will tell some special revelation God has given, one will speak in tongues, and another will interpret what is said. But everything that is done must strengthen all of you.

English Standard Version
What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.

New American Standard Bible
What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.

King James Bible
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
What then is the conclusion, brothers? Whenever you come together, each one has a psalm, a teaching, a revelation, another language, or an interpretation. All things must be done for edification.

International Standard Version
What, then, does this mean, brothers? When you gather, everyone has a psalm, teaching, revelation, foreign language, or interpretation. Everything must be done for upbuilding.

NET Bible
What should you do then, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each one has a song, has a lesson, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all these things be done for the strengthening of the church.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
I say therefore, my brethren, that whenever you gather, whoever among you has a Psalm, let him speak, or whoever has a teaching, or whoever has a revelation, or whoever has a language, or whoever has a translation, let all things be done for edification.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
So what does this mean, brothers and sisters? When you gather, each person has a psalm, doctrine, revelation, another language, or an interpretation. Everything must be done to help each other grow.

Jubilee Bible 2000
How is it then, brothers? when ye come together, each one of you has a psalm, has doctrine, has tongues, has revelation, has interpretation. Let all things be done unto edification.

King James 2000 Bible
How is it then, brethren? when you come together, every one of you has a psalm, has a doctrine, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

American King James Version
How is it then, brothers? when you come together, every one of you has a psalm, has a doctrine, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done to edifying.

American Standard Version
What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each one hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

Douay-Rheims Bible
How is it then, brethren ? When you come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation: let all things be done to edification.

Darby Bible Translation
What is it then, brethren? whenever ye come together, each [of you] has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done to edification.

English Revised Version
What is it then, brethren? When ye come together, each one hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a revelation, hath a tongue, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

Webster's Bible Translation
How is it then, brethren? when ye are assembled, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a language, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done to edification.

Weymouth New Testament
What then, brethren? Whenever you assemble, there is not one of you who is not ready either with a song of praise, a sermon, a revelation, a 'tongue,' or an interpretation. Let everything be done with a view to the building up of faith and character.

World English Bible
What is it then, brothers? When you come together, each one of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has another language, has an interpretation. Let all things be done to build each other up.

Young's Literal Translation
What then is it, brethren? whenever ye may come together, each of you hath a psalm, hath a teaching, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation? let all things be for building up;



Everyone.....hath.....not just men but everyone...

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

It is ironic that people twist Paul's words "I do not permit a woman to teach" (1 Tim. 2:12, NKJV) in order to make a blanket prohibition against women teaching men, when in 2 Timothy 1:5 Paul commends Lois and Eunice for teaching Timothy the faith!....

Yes, and go study what age a male was considered a man....



Women teach in every church...a song, in testimony of how they trusted God for something...women teach SS school classes and even pray in loud voices....they cannot find a scripture saying women do not preach....they want to make one say something it does not say...

Big difference between the home and church. Where do you get the idea that Timothy was not taught until he became a man?

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

It is ironic that people twist Paul's words "I do not permit a woman to teach" (1 Tim. 2:12, NKJV) in order to make a blanket prohibition against women teaching men, when in 2 Timothy 1:5 Paul commends Lois and Eunice for teaching Timothy the faith!....

Yes, and go study what age a male was considered a man....



Women teach in every church...a song, in testimony of how they trusted God for something...women teach SS school classes and even pray in loud voices....they cannot find a scripture saying women do not preach....they want to make one say something it does not say...

1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-12.