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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
John 14:18King James Version (KJV)
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
In heaven or on earth?
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10-21-2017, 10:39 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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i see guys that cannot read a passage in it's context, then conclude that Jesus is not omnipresent at all but a man on a throne that is not able to be on earth. |
You are the last one to accuse anyone of not being on context when the passage clearly says HE IS IN THE HEAVENS AS PRIEST AND AS MAN, and IF HE WAS ON EARTH HE WOULD NOT BE THAT PRIEST.
8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
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Colossians 1:27King James Version (KJV)
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Question....where is "you"?
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Christ is not IN ME AS A MAN. HE IS NOT A MAN WHEN HE IS IN ME.
Now, can you follow me when I said HE IS NOT A MAN WHEN HE IS IN ME, BUT IS GOD?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
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10-21-2017, 10:40 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
i see guys that cannot read a passage in it's context, then conclude that Jesus is not omnipresent at all but a man on a throne that is not able to be on earth.
Now, ...
Colossians 1:27King James Version (KJV)
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Question....where is "you"?
Heaven or earth?
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Sean, then why wasn't God able to inhabit Jesus prior to His resurrection?
Correct me If I'm wrong, but you posted that Jesus is omnipresent, and God is omnipresent. Yet, this omnipresent God couldn't fit inside Jesus when He was walking around Judea in the first century. So, according to you, how can we as mortal men have TWO omnipresent beings inside us now?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
I guess we are not on earth.
Wow.
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
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When Jesus was on earth in the first century AD you said that God couldn't "fit" inside Him. So, how does TWO omnipresent beings fit inside us now?
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10-21-2017, 10:42 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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I guess we are not on earth.
Wow.
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I guess you are not on earth.
You are in double O space. 
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10-21-2017, 10:43 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Sean, then why wasn't God able to inhabit Jesus prior to His resurrection?
Correct me If I'm wrong, but you posted that Jesus is omnipresent, and God is omnipresent. Yet, this omnipresent God couldn't fit inside Jesus when He was walking around Judea in the first century. So, according to you, how can we as mortal men have TWO omnipresent beings inside us now?
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Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
God in Jesus in us, as it says.
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10-21-2017, 10:43 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
John 14:18King James Version (KJV)
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
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As man?
No.
AS SPIRIT.
THE MAN is mediator and high priest and THE MAN IS NOT ON EARTH. Can you understand what it means to be priest as a man and being inside us as GOD and not as man?
here is where your belief falls apart. You cannot see how AS A MAN He is mediator and that THE MAN is NOT ON EARTH as this mediator. And you cannot harmonize that with references that say Christ is in us as SPIRIT. You cannot comprehend that Christ has to be both God and man, in order for Hebrews 8:4 to be true while at the same time Col 1:27 is true.
Your doctrine disallows Heb 8:4 and makes it contradict Col 1:27. But if you accepted the truth that Jesus is GOD AND MAN, then you would know the MAN is what Heb 8:4 is talking about, and Col 1:27 is not talking about HIM AS MAN, which can only mean HE IS ALSO GOD.
And Sean, here's something else that proves your doctrine goes haywire and you cannot talk sensibly and maintain you belief in light of scripture: How is he called MAN if the MAN BECAME GOD? He would not longer BE MAN if HE BECAME GOD!
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Christ in you is NOT here.
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How can Christ be "IN YOU" when you have Him being a ginormous human container for the fullness of the Godhead?
Also, since Jesus was too small for the fullness of the Godhead to be in Him when He was a mere man, how are we mere men not be too small to have this same fullness of the Godhead in us when we have Christ in us?
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