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07-30-2007, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
What does this mean ? Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world,and death by sin:and death passed upon all men,for all have sinned
ROMANS 5:12
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Through Adam sin entered into the world. Adam committed sin. When he committed sin spiritual death resulted for all men.
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07-30-2007, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
His mother was a sinner. Therefore from the moment he was born with the sin nature he had the ability and the propensity to commit sin
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Of course He had the ability in His humanity to commit sin ,this I don't deny.
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07-30-2007, 11:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Of course He had the ability in His humanity to commit sin ,this I don't deny.
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You asked me to explain what that verse says lol
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-30-2007, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Of course He had the ability in His humanity to commit sin ,this I don't deny.
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You affirm the ability but deny the propensity?
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07-30-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Through Adam sin entered into the world. Adam committed sin. When he committed sin spiritual death resulted for all men.
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Is not original sin a taint to every person born ?
Does not original sin speak of a condition that we all are born with ?
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07-30-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Is not original sin a taint to every person born ?
Does not original sin speak of a condition that we all are born with ?
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Define original sin.
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07-30-2007, 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Is not original sin a taint to every person born ?
Does not original sin speak of a condition that we all are born with ?
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Im not catholic. I don't believe in original sin.
If however by original sin you mean everyone has the ability and propensity to commit sin? Yes I believe that. Our record is tainted when we commit Sin. That is why the author made the point to mention "tempted in all points like us, yet without sin.
What is sin?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-30-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Yes.
With you.
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Funny. Seems like you were agreeing with me on a point he disagreed with me on.
I see a whole lot of semantics going on here. I also see the handwriting on the wall. 
I'm out. Be Blessed!
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07-30-2007, 11:24 PM
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Elder Strange did Jesus Christ have the inclination or tendency to sin?
According to Webster Propensity means the inclination or tendency.
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07-30-2007, 11:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Elder Strange did Jesus Christ have the inclination or tendency to sin?
According to Webster Propensity means the inclination or tendency.
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Scott, do you believe through the Holy Spirit you have the ability to resist temptation and sin and then to not commit sin, though you have a fallen nature?
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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