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Old 09-12-2007, 10:02 PM
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Intriging. How large is this sect today? Do they still shun sex?
There are a few hundred congregations yet today. Most have revised their stand on physical relations. But in the 50's and earlier that taught it strong and it had an adverse affect on their movement.
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There are a few hundred congregations yet today. Most have revised their stand on physical relations. But in the 50's and earlier that taught it strong and it had an adverse affect on their movement.
Yeah .... it's called the BABY BOOM.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:09 PM
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Yeah .... it's called the BABY BOOM.
Many my father's age never married, some feel into sexual sins. I am sure maybe some of the elderly still might believe this but I would say the majority has moved away from this teaching. That doctrine will kill a movement naturally.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:52 PM
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I'm glad Tom Fudge wrote the book! I'm glad it's sitting on my bookshelf.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:43 AM
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I'm glad Tom Fudge wrote the book! I'm glad it's sitting on my bookshelf.
The book has been controversial.
It has been praised and condemned usually depending on our view we already held before we read the book.

I think a good thing about the book is that it revealed the fact that what we now refer to as the "one-step" plan of salvation on these forums was in the past and can still be today a valid view among Oneness Apostolic Pentecostals.

I think something we can all learn from it is to be more tolerant of those who do not agree with us on all things.
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The book has been controversial.
It has been praised and condemned usually depending on our view we already held before we read the book.

I think a good thing about the book is that it revealed the fact that what we now refer to as the "one-step" plan of salvation on these forums was in the past and can still be today a valid view among Oneness Apostolic Pentecostals.

I think something we can all learn from it is to be more tolerant of those who do not agree with us on all things.
I mentioned this before, and I'm sure others have as well- but for those who would like to read a good portion of the book before buying it- a "preview" copy is available at Google Books for free.
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Old 01-29-2010, 11:10 PM
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Re: Reading Fudge's Book Again

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I fell asleep last night reading the autobiograph of W. E. Kidson. It was an interesting read. In it, he speaks of Eugene Garret (from Washington) a great deal. I wondered if Bro Garrett was still alive. Anyone know?
could you tell me how to get a copy of W.E. Kidson's autobiography?
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Old 01-29-2010, 11:44 PM
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This will be my third reading. I read it twice when I first got it when it first came out. But decided to read it through again. Though I do not agree and his bias is evident he must be commended for the hours of gathering information and putting it together. Some things I doubt their factualness not impugning him but the memory can be tricky with all of us and interviewing folks in their late years or early years for that matter all information we remember through the prisms of experiences. I am enjoying it again. I love any history of the American Jesus Name movement. Or Pentecostalism in general. I bougth several books advertized in Charisma during the time of the Azusa celebration.
You simply can't take the heart out of those that have lived it. Much of what he gathered was also from recordings and actual sermon notes. When writing from a side or point of view that was hidden from plain sight during much of the 1960's, 70's and 80's. It will sound bias because it is from a polar point of view. I read the book twice and found over whelming evidence that there was a fraction of our my heritage and past that was kept from me.

In the end we all take the entire history and perspective of our experiences and come to a belief. It was interesting to see my father quoted in the book a couple of times.
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Re: Reading Fudge's Book Again

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