Mark of the Beast may be only 2 1/2 years away

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother Loren, what do you believe Hebrews 9:27 is telling the reader?

The writer of Hebrews 9 is describing the Levitical high priest and the atonement for the people. Hebrews 9:27 is dealing with Genesis 3:19, which also is repeated in Ecclesiastes 3:20-21. If we stay with the context of the writer's discussion then he is dealing with Jewish themes of the Genesis, the law, the priesthood, and man's reward. Jesus is that Levitical high priest taking away the sins of the people, He enter in with their sins and He appears outside of the Holy of Holies without sin Hebrews 9:7. I'm just asking to be clear. Hope all is well with you and your family.

Brother Loren, would you care to answer this post? If you don’t feel the need to I understand. Just asking your thoughts on this question. Hope all is well in Jesus name.

[Evang.Benincasa]

This just came out 12 days ago.

Their flesh shall consume away? Does this mean the effects of nuclear war?

Leviticus 26:16

I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

Deuteronomy 28:20-22

The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.

This isn't effects of a nuclear war, but the effects of pestilence, hence the writer of Zechariah uses the word "plague." Brother Ken Raggio uses more newspaper headlines than chapter and verse.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Maybe this guy has some answers?

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Maybe this guy has some answers?

Yahuah?

heavens to murgatroyd

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The “Jews” no matter who they are (either Modern Israeli or Orthodox Jew) are just Gentiles. “They” building a temple in Jerusalem would be the equivalent of you dressing like Moses, calling yourself Moses, climbing Mount Sinai and claiming it’s Biblical. There is no one on this planet who can prove they’re the physical descendants of the tribes of Israel. Also the ONLY covenant people are the Christians who have made of covenant with Jesus Christ through His death, burial, and resurrection. So, “they Jews” are no Jews to Jesus Christ.

OK. I understand your idea about whether they are real jews by genealogy, but that was not what my comment was about?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Yahuah?

heavens to murgatroyd

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by coksiw

Do they jews need a temple to do animal sacrifice? Can't they just build the Tabernacle?

OK, what do you mean by the above? You make the statement "do The Jews need a temple to do animal sacrifice? Can't they just build a tabernacle?"

Were you being facetious? Please explain the above comment?

Originally Posted by coksiw

BTW, they have been doing animal sacrifices already with priests and levites for at least 6 years, during passover as far as I know.

Again, who are THEY? As I pointed out the "they" cannot prove their lineage by any stretch of the imagination. Let alone be able to prove their identity as a priest, or a Levite in the direct line of Aaron.

Originally Posted by coksiw

They probably already did the red heifer too but just didn't say anything to avoid turmoil with neighbors. The Temple Institute indeed said they would be doing it before passover, and then, passover is over, and no news whether they did it or not.

You do know that you can say that you are the president of the United States? People around you can also agree with you and call you the president of the United States. But the facts are that you are not the president of the United States. You don't have the authority, or governmental evidence that would prove your claim or the claim of those around you. The Bible tells us that those living today who call themselves Jews, Israelis, Levites, are not the ones found in the Bible, or even remotely related to those in the Bible.

It's like saying the people in Moab Utah are the same as the Moabites found in the Bible.

Originally Posted by coksiw

Just watch the Temple Institute youtube channel.

So utterly sad.

[loran adkins]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother Loren, would you care to answer this post? If you don’t feel the need to I understand. Just asking your thoughts on this question. Hope all is well in Jesus name.

First off let me say when I came on this forum I was died in the wool Disp. but I have since became full Preterist. By that I mean I feel all things that were prophesied concerning the end was speaking about the end of the old covenant, not the end of the world. Hence all things were fulfilled in 70ad.

As for the white throne judgment that would be the judgment of all those in under the old covenant. Of note the book of Revelations ends with the New Jerusalem coming down from heaven, which I believe is here with us today. Hence the final judgement found in Revelation 20, then New Jerusalem comes down from heaven in chapter 21.

As for the death spoken of in Hebrews does not deal with natural death, but spiritual death. Although I do believe that natural death plays a part, especially to those that do not receive Christ in this life. That is when they are judged. To those that have received Christ have their sins forgiven them at salvation, can a saved person loose salvation? I believe they can, I do not believe OSOS

I know that this does not explain everything but I hope it helps answer the question of what I believe.

[loran adkins]

Originally Posted by coksiw

OK. I understand your idea about whether they are real jews by genealogy, but that was not what my comment was about?

Bottom line, they can call themselves what ever they want, does not make a world of difference they can build all the temples they want but that does not make them recognized by God, anymore than the Morman's that build their temples.

When Jesus laid down his life it was once for all never to go back to sacrifices again. Children of Abraham are now and always will be by faith in Christ no other way.

[coksiw]

Lol, you EB and loran are getting on me, like I'm banned from calling them jews. Are you the thought and language police or something? Did I begin to argue against your ideas? I was just sharing some interesting information, that they have appointed priests and levites, and began to practice the animal sacrifices at Passover, in order to re-instantiate OT practices. Whether that has any meaning to God or not is not my point. Whether they are real jews or not is not my point either. I just call them jews.

Your unsolicited wrath for me calling them "jews" is actually comical, .