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Old 12-07-2020, 08:31 AM
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So in other words there really is no hope for us in our time frame to understand what the Bible is saying.
On the contrary, God is laser focused on the prophetical events of the last days, which we live in right now.
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Old 12-07-2020, 10:57 AM
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...Esaias now has to dig out Ussher's Annals and Whiston's Chronology and some other dusty old tomes, and grumbles about "homework"...
Also get your book done
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So in other words there really is no hope for us in our time frame to understand what the Bible is saying.
Mike are you really this arrogant? In other words? That's your take way? That I just wrote a paragraph which says we cannot see what they saw? I said the absolute opposite. But Mike, is this just about you? Since you are incapable of gathering sheaves in the area in which you live. Have you have convinced yourself that the internet Social Media is your congregation? Mike, real movements are accomplished with a one on one. You are always beating the drum for street preaching, get out there and get a group together.

Anyway I sound like a broken record telling you this. You are prideful and arrogant. If the fire isn't in your fireplace, then what is coming out the chimney isn't smoke.

Yeah, yeah, you have changed blah blah blah since you walked with your dirty feet hippy sandals into an Apostolic church. Whatever the story is.

So, what I actually said in the post is that NO BIBLE STUDYING JUDEAN would of saw the CHURCH as separate from Israel. Period. Why????

Because when those Greek speaking Judeans where reading their Bibles from Alexandria to Judea. They would of understood that THEY WERE THE EKKLESIA!!!!

The only thing faithful Judeans would of also noticed is that unless you accepted Jesus as the Christ you were NO LONGER PART of the EKKLESIA!!

Not hard Mike, this isn't hard at all buddy.

So, when is your video coming out about to beard or not to beard?

Because those threads you shine.
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Re: The Manchild Ministry 45 Minutes

Rev 12:5

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And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Who are the THEY?
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Old 12-08-2020, 08:17 AM
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Per the verse, the nations.
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17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

These are the 144,000 Jews(12,000 per each tribe).

They are obviously slain and found in heaven 2 chapters later...


14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

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Who are the THEY?
What does τρέφωσιν mean Mike?

Do you believe in a Trinity?

Wait, you do, God the FATHER, and God the SPACE SUIT.

Revelation 12:6 uses the same word, as found in Revelation 12:14. The English word "they" was added by the interpreters. In other English translation the the interpreters left out the word they.

New International Version
The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

New Living Translation
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place to care for her for 1,260 days.

English Standard Version
and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for 1,260 days.

Berean Study Bible
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place for her to be nourished for 1,260 days.

Berean Literal Bible
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place having been prepared there by God, so that they should nourish her there one thousand two hundred sixty days.

New American Standard Bible
Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

New King James Version
Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

King James Bible
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Christian Standard Bible
The woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, to be nourished there for 1,260 days.

Contemporary English Version
The woman ran into the desert to a place that God had prepared for her. There she would be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Good News Translation
The woman fled to the desert, to a place God had prepared for her, where she will be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, to be fed there for 1,260 days.

International Standard Version
Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where a place had been prepared for her by God so that she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

NET Bible
and she fled into the wilderness where a place had been prepared for her by God, so she could be taken care of for 1,260 days.

New Heart English Bible
The woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that there they may nourish her one thousand two hundred sixty days.

A Faithful Version
And the woman escaped into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there for a thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And the woman fled to the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God where she would be sustained 1260 days.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Then the woman fled into the wilderness where God had prepared a place for her so that she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

New American Standard 1977
And the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she might be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

King James 2000 Bible
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three score days.

American King James Version
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three score days.

American Standard Version
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that there they should feed her a thousand two hundred sixty days.

Darby Bible Translation
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has there a place prepared of God, that they should nourish her there a thousand two hundred [and] sixty days.

English Revised Version
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Webster's Bible Translation
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Weymouth New Testament
and the woman fled into the Desert, there to be cared for, for 1,260 days, in a place which God had prepared for her.

World English Bible
The woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that there they may nourish her one thousand two hundred sixty days.

Young's Literal Translation
and the woman did flee to the wilderness, where she hath a place made ready from God, that there they may nourish her -- days a thousand, two hundred, sixty.
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17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

These are the 144,000 Jews(12,000 per each tribe).

They are obviously slain and found in heaven 2 chapters later...


14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Sean, did you come up with that on the fly? How do the verses you posted correlate with each other? Like I always said Bible studies where you are the teacher must be gladiator school.
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But Jerusalem was encompassed about with armies, as Jesus prophesied in the Olivet prophecy, in 70AD. So I'm missing where the 3 other years are, historically?

If the woman is the church/new covenant Israel, who are the "they" that will nourish her in the wilderness (Rev 12:6)?

Actually it was Esaias that asked who are the "they," in Rev 12"6. I was studying it out, but you beat me to it. So it seems as if God protected/nourished them during the 1260 days. *thank you*

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Actually it was Esaias that asked who are the "they," in Rev 12"6. I was studying it out, but you beat me to it. So it seems as if God protected/nourished them during the 1260 days. *thank you*
Actually I asked that question 3 times in this thread.

"They" is God? I'll ask you what Dom asked me.

Is God a Trinity?
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