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Old 12-15-2016, 12:58 AM
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Re: Trump's Staff and Cabinet

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Oh for heaven's sake, GROW UP! He lied his tail off during the primary about a myriad of issues and isn't holding to most of his campaign promises. If you trust him with your life, go for it. Don't expect that from all of us.

And, BTW, did you say you are a substitute teacher in our public schools? I'm afraid your answer is yes.
He has to follow the teacher's lesson plan.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:06 AM
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And you ignore the issue.

Instead of having wacko liberal bills like climate change, federal mandated paternity leave and the bogus pay discrepancy either defeated by Congress or the SCOTUS.... don't elect a fake conservative as POTUS.

He is not pushing climate change garbage. Why do you keep being so dishonest?
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:07 AM
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He can't. He won't. It's easier to be dismissive and post insults.

Nothing you guys have said has come to pass. And I'm supposed to prove you wrong?
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Old 12-15-2016, 01:54 PM
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And you ignore the issue.

Instead of having wacko liberal bills like climate change, federal mandated paternity leave and the bogus pay discrepancy either defeated by Congress or the SCOTUS.... don't elect a fake conservative as POTUS.
If you don't believe in addressing climate change you obviously have your head in the sand, or at least believe in waiting until there is a crisis to act. Both are idiotic recipes for disaster. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I refuse to go down catering to the greed and ignorance of corporatists who brazenly don't care a lick about climate change and it's effects, after all, those most deeply affected will be in poor low lying countries. If it's a problem, it needs to be addressed. If it isn't a problem it needs to be prevented. Waiting for a crisis before acting is just plain stupid.

If you oppose mandatory paternity leave (the mandate that employers offer paternity leave) you are ANTI-FATHERHOOD. If you don't feel like taking paternity leave, don't. But don't deny other fathers the right to do so and to be involved in the first years of their child's life, especially the opportunity to be help to their wives who are now young mothers. Even in ancient Israel soldiers were relieved of military duty for one year upon getting married so that they could cultivate intimacy with their wives and sire children. Paternal leave is of the same moral fabric.

If one feel that business has a greater right to force employment on new fathers, over the right of new fathers to be with their children. I ask that they please tie a mill stone around their neck and jump in the ocean. They'd be of more value to the efforts of TRUE FATHERHOOD if they did.

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Old 12-15-2016, 02:04 PM
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If you don't believe in addressing climate change you obviously have your head in the sand, or at least believe in waiting until there is a crisis to act. Both are idiotic recipes for disaster. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I refuse to go down catering to the greed and ignorance of corporatists who brazenly don't care a lick about climate change and it's effects, after all, those most deeply affected will be in poor low lying countries. If it's a problem, it needs to be addressed. If it isn't a problem it needs to be prevented. Waiting for a crisis before acting is just plain stupid.

If you oppose mandatory paternity leave (the mandate that employers offer paternity leave) you are ANTI-FATHERHOOD. If you don't feel like taking paternity leave, don't. But don't deny other fathers the right to do so and to be involved in the first years of their child's life, especially the opportunity to be help to their wives who are now young mothers. Even in ancient Israel soldiers were relieved of military duty for one year upon getting married so that they could cultivate intimacy with their wives and sire children. Paternal leave is of the same moral fabric.

If one feel that business has a greater right to force employment on new fathers, over the right of new fathers to be with their children. I ask that they please tie a mill stone around their neck and jump in the ocean. They'd be of more value to the efforts of TRUE FATHERHOOD if they did.
If you believe in man-made climate change, you have been lied to.
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:06 PM
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If you believe in man-made climate change, you have been lied to.
If you believe that man's contribution has had no impact, nor will ever have any impact, your head is in the sand.
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:15 PM
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Think of it this way...

If we treat global warming seriously, and it is found to be exaggerated, we move to cleaner energy and a cleaner environment. We open new markets and entirely new industries. And as a result we either succeed in addressing climate change, or prevent it. Win/win.

If we treat global warming as though it is a joke and it is real.... you deserve to pay before Almighty God for the hell that will be unleashed as the ocean levels rise and entire low lying nations are sent fleeing for their lives. Also, the cost of money lost as the environment is destabilized will be greater than the world community will be able to absorb. It even makes long term financial sense to address the concern of global warming.

If you believe in global warming and man's contribution to the problem, we have a moral responsibility to act and address the crisis. If you don't believe in it, we have a moral responsibility to prevent.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

What??? You want to wait until it is a crisis to act???? Even denying global warming doesn't remove the responsibility to prevent it from ever becoming a reality.
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Old 12-15-2016, 04:59 PM
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If you oppose mandatory paternity leave (the mandate that employers offer paternity leave) you are ANTI-FATHERHOOD. If you don't feel like taking paternity leave, don't. But don't deny other fathers the right to do so and to be involved in the first years of their child's life, especially the opportunity to be help to their wives who are now young mothers. Even in ancient Israel soldiers were relieved of military duty for one year upon getting married so that they could cultivate intimacy with their wives and sire children. Paternal leave is of the same moral fabric.

If one feel that business has a greater right to force employment on new fathers, over the right of new fathers to be with their children. I ask that they please tie a mill stone around their neck and jump in the ocean. They'd be of more value to the efforts of TRUE FATHERHOOD if they did.
Oh spare us the aria. Good grief.

I don't believe the government has a right to tell a private business what to do. If the business doesn't offer paid maternity/paternity leave, use FMLA. The business shouldn't be forced to pay for its employee to be absent. What's next, mandating paid vacation or sick leave?

It's a free country. If your employer doesn't offer these things, go find another employer!

And this is coming from a father of three kids.
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Old 12-15-2016, 05:04 PM
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Think of it this way...

If we treat global warming seriously, and it is found to be exaggerated, we move to cleaner energy and a cleaner environment. We open new markets and entirely new industries. And as a result we either succeed in addressing climate change, or prevent it. Win/win.
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If we treat global warming as though it is a joke and it is real.... you deserve to pay before Almighty God for the hell that will be unleashed as the ocean levels rise and entire low lying nations are sent fleeing for their lives.


I have this mental image of some old, gangling guy with crazed eyes and wild hair spitting saliva all over the mic, screaming at the people in the pews.

"...you deserve to pay before Almighty God for the hell that will be unleashed as the ocean levels rise and entire low lying nations are sent fleeing for their lives."


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Old 12-15-2016, 06:05 PM
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Solyndra says




I have this mental image of some old, gangling guy with crazed eyes and wild hair spitting saliva all over the mic, screaming at the people in the pews.

"...you deserve to pay before Almighty God for the hell that will be unleashed as the ocean levels rise and entire low lying nations are sent fleeing for their lives."

Exactly.
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