Aquila? JD? Light? Why So Quiet?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, it's okay with you if Trump praises fascist dictators instead of condemning their tyranny.

At least Hillary publically condemned Putin as a soulless dictator. She has more "manhood" than Trump and is willing to call a dictator a dictator.

Ha ha ha, if there is anyone here who has criticized and condemned Trump it is David, it is hilarious watching you attack David who is a strong critic of trump, but at least he is not delusional in casting false accusations like you are.

[Nitehawk013]

I seem to recall Obama having contact with world leaders prior to being elected. They all praised him and were so excited about him. Funny how Globalists stick together like that.

And Trump is a fascist because ehe doesn't condemn Putin? Ok. Obama is what then? He will not even utter the words "muslim extremist" or "Muslim terrorist". His likely real father Frank Marshall Davis was a full blown communist.

Seems so "honest" of you to give Obama a pass on so much, while arguing Trump is evil incarnate.

Meanwhile, in the real world...Trump isn't even in office yet and he has already given me days of smiles over the way he has been essentially kicking leftists in their teeth. Climate denying EPA head. Rebuking union bosses as worthless. Saving 1800 jobs in Indiana. Appointing Mad Dog to his cabinet. Naming Dr. Carson to straighten out HUD instead of it just being a perpetual welfare depository. On and on it goes...and more and more the libtards cry and pout. Warms my heart.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

I completely missed this whole post, a couple others while I was typing my long response earlier.


Welp. I am NOT loyal to Trump. I was #NeverTrump during the election and still am not at all a Trump supporter. I criticized his "deal" with Carrier, though I was happy with the other deal with SoftBank. I'm critical of several of his admin and Cabinet picks -- AG Sessions, NSA Flynn, CIA Director Pompeo, Ed Secy DeVos, HUD Secy Carson.


I understand you want to cast it as an umbrella of sorts; however, if the spines holding the umbrella up are either absent or broken, the umbrella isn't going to hold up. That's what is happening with your list. Sure, it looks good at a glance. But when you actually look at each claim, one by one, the umbrella falls apart and you get soaked.


I've been very critical of Trump's comments towards free speech and free press. That is very troubling. But Trump is not a King just as obama is not a King. You have to remember the hysteria of the right when obama was elected. Alex Jones was predicting FEMA camps, gun confiscations and martial law. You tell me if those fears were founded in reality? This is the same thing. You have Trump, who liberals have cast as an evil villain -- much like obama was cast as one by the right. So liberals like yourself have not only listed valid concerns -- like free speech/press -- but also have gone into left field with a bunch of unfounded fears -- internment camps, etc.


Alex Jones just knew in the marrow of his bones that obama was a communist who would impose martial law, confiscate guns and put all his opposition into FEMA camps. We'll see, at the end of 4 or 8 years, if your fears are correct.

You know, Alex Jones is a BIG Trump supporter and interestingly, Trump has even referred to stories from InfoWars as though they were true. Here's a picture of Alex Jones actually speaking at a Trump rally in my home state of Ohio, near Cleaveland.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Based on your source link, neither Trump nor any of his campaign staff had contact with the Russian government.

I've stated it's very likely, as CEO of The Trump Company, that he may have investments in Russia. I do NOT believe there are any secret or scandalous deals or investments with Putin or the Russian government.

If Trump had sat down in the Kremlin with Putin (or had Putin visited Trump Tower) for a meeting, I would consider it the same as his and Hillary's meetings with the Japanese PM and Trump's visit to Mexico to speak with President Nieto.


I condemned Trump's encouragement of Russian hacking. I've also questioned Wikileaks involvement in releasing information only damaging to Hillary Clinton. I wish Wikileaks had put the same effort, or any effort, into exposing Trump's tax returns and other hidden information we may not know about regarding the Trump Foundation, Trump University or his various business dealings.

Here's an article that I just read this morning. It puts all this together well:

Americans keep looking away from the election’s most alarming story
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.f7af102a5417

[Aquila]

I firmly believe in my heart of hearts that Trump was not only in contact with Russia, but was fully aware and agreeable to Russia's illegal hacking and misinformation machine that was designed to help him get elected. I believe Russia's goal is to "normalize" relations to establish greater power over the former Soviet block. I also believe that Russia's goal is to weaken NATO in order to strengthen their position in regional military matters. I feel they found a useful idiot in Trump. And that Trump will financially beneft as long as he plays nice with Putin. Do I have proof? Nope. But it is what I firmly believe.

[Aquila]

And we're not even off the first reason why I believe Trump is a Fascist Nazi.

[Aquila]

Russian propaganda is state-of-the-art again

As in the 1930s, Moscow is a beacon for an international movement

http://www.economist.com/news/europe...ian-propaganda

And Trump has bought into that movement.

[Aquila]

Just in:

Obama Orders Investigation Into Election-Related Hacking
https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...m_source=atlfb

I predict they will uncover so much dirt on how the Russians influenced the American people through misinformation and propaganda and thwarted Democratic strategies based on information gained from the hacking... in the effort to help Trump win the election.

If they find proof of collaboration between Trump and Russia to affect our democratic process through misinformation and propaganda before December 19th.... I think the Electoral College should disqualify Trump and turn it over to Congress to vote on another candidate. Among the Republicans I'd like to see considered are Governor John Kasich of Ohio (GO BUCKS!) and Senator Rand Paul.

[Aquila]

This is really sad.... think about it. Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee has called for this review to be completed quickly. Why?

"Given President-Elect Trump's disturbing refusal to listen to our intelligence community and accept that the hacking was orchestrated by the Kremlin, there is an added urgency to the need for a thorough review before President Obama leaves office next month."

It's really sad when the government is scrambling to investigate something this big because the Idiot-Elect refuses to believe the intelligence community. Tell me, how is this guy going to be able to keep us safe if he refuses to listen to our intelligence experts???

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Just in:

Obama Orders Investigation Into Election-Related Hacking
https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...m_source=atlfb

I predict they will uncover so much dirt on how the Russians influenced the American people through misinformation and propaganda and thwarted Democratic strategies based on information gained from the hacking... in the effort to help Trump win the election.

If they find proof of collaboration between Trump and Russia to affect our democratic process through misinformation and propaganda before December 19th.... I think the Electoral College should disqualify Trump and turn it over to Congress to vote on another candidate. Among the Republicans I'd like to see considered are Governor John Kasich of Ohio (GO BUCKS!) and Senator Rand Paul.

The GOP announced yesterday or the day before that they will begin Congressional hearings into hacking by Russia.

There won't be any evidence of any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

I know you're upset with Hillary's and the DNC's secrets being exposed, but nothing will be found.