Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Any more questions Prax? Your fellow Christians here or in Indonesia or in Malaysia don't pay any taxes. Ancient history. Ask someone else about that. The only taxes we pay are to support YOU back home, not any local government. So we, all of us, would just prefer that you say thank you and move on with that silly tax thing.

Yes but you did not state that you condemn certain acts I mentioned. All you said was in some certain location Christians don't pay a tax

Also why did you say "we"? You aren't a Christian are you?

Also do you condemn invading a town, killing the men and taking slaves of the women and girls and becoming brides to Muslims?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes but you did not state that you condemn certain acts I mentioned. All you said was in some certain location Christians don't pay a tax

Also why did you say "we"? You aren't a Christian are you?

Also do you condemn invading a town, killing the men and taking slaves of the women and girls and becoming brides to Muslims?

WE are American and WE all pay the same taxes. WE would not accept a religious-based tax. None of us.

On the issue of invading and killing:

See previous post. I don't believe that encouraging or supporting killing and forcing religion is acceptable, much less invading and killing.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by shazeep

zing!

Took awhile to rescue the Delaware girls out of the grubby hands of the perverted church.

1920's or so.

Can't blame those sinful mackerel-smacking catholics on that one this time. Forbidden for a catholic to hold office back in the day. "Convert or die" was "convert or stay out of the political process". Amazing how the second amendment levels things out when you aren't indigenous or a "person of color" huh.

I idly wonder why so many people, generations of them, who professed their faith in Jesus when they took office in that state never got that changed (since it's such a perverted practice I would think that might be a priority). It sure is a priority today.

Perhaps had some guidance should been included in the bible?

Irony: Using the principles of the feminists (atheists) who got ages of consent raised and set as a comparison tool for "my religion is better than yours".

That's really, really funny.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Typical of you. Except you forgot to pull the beam out of your own eye. So Mohammed brought a 9-yr-old wife into his household over 1400 years ago? Here are your own ages of consent by state, only 150 years ago.

Alabama 10
Alaska -
Arizona 12
Arkansas 10
California 10
Colorado 10
Connecticut 10
District of Columbia 12
Delaware 7
Florida 10
Georgia 10
Hawaii - -
Idaho 10
Illinois 10
Indiana 12
Iowa 10
Kansas 10
Kentucky 12
Louisiana 12
Maine 10
Maryland 10
Massachusetts 10
Michigan 10
Minnesota 10
Mississippi 10
Missouri 12
Montana 10
Nebraska 10
Nevada 12
New Hampshire 10
New Jersey 10
New Mexico 10
New York 10
North Carolina 10
North Dakota 10
Ohio 10
Oklahoma - - 16
Oregon 10
Pennsylvania 10
Rhode Island 10
South Carolina 10
South Dakota 10
Tennessee 10
Texas 10
Utah 10
Vermont 10
Virginia 12
Washington 12
West Virginia 12
Wisconsin 10
Wyoming 10

Delaware stands out. How come? I know I know. Here's why. To hold office in Delaware, you had to be a religious man.

Article 22 shown below is a very strict religious test-oath. Not only did you have to be a Christian, you had to believe in the Trinity and the Bible is the inspired Word of God.

"Every person who shall be chosen a member of either House, or appointed to any office or place of trust, before taking his seat, or entering upon the execution of his office, shall take the following oath, or affirmation, if conscientiously scrupulous of taking an oath, to wit: I _____, do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, One God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old Testament and New Testament to be given by Divine Inspiration".

Reworded:

I _____, do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, One God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old Testament and New Testament to be given by Divine Inspiration and this gives me and my white protestant peers the full right to be perverts and violate 7-yr-old girls".

Gotta be specially religious to hold office in Delaware in the good old US of A huh? How come you don't address that first, then go back 1400 years when God knows what was practiced in society and bring that up. You think age of marriage or consent is religious or traditional? Speak up.

Your data seems incorrect.

http://books.google.com/books?id=IBQ...=0CDIQ6AEwCTgK

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

WE are American and WE all pay the same taxes. WE would not accept a religious-based tax. None of us.

On the issue of invading and killing:

See previous post. I don't believe that encouraging or supporting killing and forcing religion is acceptable, much less invading and killing.

No WE don't all pay the same taxes.
Some people don't pay any income taxes.
Some pay very little as a percentage of their income.
This government penalizes success and keeps people dependant upon it through the tax structure and entitlements.

A question only:
What would this world look like if everyone acted like Muslims?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Typical of you. Except you forgot to pull the beam out of your own eye. So Mohammed brought a 9-yr-old wife into his household over 1400 years ago? Here are your own ages of consent by state, only 150 years ago.

Alabama 10
Alaska -
Arizona 12
Arkansas 10
California 10
Colorado 10
Connecticut 10
District of Columbia 12
Delaware 7
Florida 10
Georgia 10
Hawaii - -
Idaho 10
Illinois 10
Indiana 12
Iowa 10
Kansas 10
Kentucky 12
Louisiana 12
Maine 10
Maryland 10
Massachusetts 10
Michigan 10
Minnesota 10
Mississippi 10
Missouri 12
Montana 10
Nebraska 10
Nevada 12
New Hampshire 10
New Jersey 10
New Mexico 10
New York 10
North Carolina 10
North Dakota 10
Ohio 10
Oklahoma - - 16
Oregon 10
Pennsylvania 10
Rhode Island 10
South Carolina 10
South Dakota 10
Tennessee 10
Texas 10
Utah 10
Vermont 10
Virginia 12
Washington 12
West Virginia 12
Wisconsin 10
Wyoming 10

Delaware stands out. How come? I know I know. Here's why. To hold office in Delaware, you had to be a religious man.

Article 22 shown below is a very strict religious test-oath. Not only did you have to be a Christian, you had to believe in the Trinity and the Bible is the inspired Word of God.

"Every person who shall be chosen a member of either House, or appointed to any office or place of trust, before taking his seat, or entering upon the execution of his office, shall take the following oath, or affirmation, if conscientiously scrupulous of taking an oath, to wit: I _____, do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, One God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old Testament and New Testament to be given by Divine Inspiration".

Reworded:

I _____, do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, One God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old Testament and New Testament to be given by Divine Inspiration and this gives me and my white protestant peers the full right to be perverts and violate 7-yr-old girls".

Gotta be specially religious to hold office in Delaware in the good old US of A huh? How come you don't address that first, then go back 1400 years when God knows what was practiced in society and bring that up. You think age of marriage or consent is religious or traditional? Speak up.

Typical! Thanks for demonstrating once again that YOU JUSTIFY Islamic perversion by the perversion of others! LOL!!!

Oh and your data is not accurate as demnonstrated by someone else. You just pull stuff out of the air and expect it to be believed.

So hear you go someo questions:
1) Do you believe its okay to marry a 6 year old girl?
2) Do you believe a grown man should be able to marry and have "relations" with a 9 year old girl?

If your answer is "yes" then you have proven your mindset.

If no:
3) Do you believe it is a perversion?


I think everyone else here would answer no and that it IS a perversion.
So your answer please.

[Pliny]

Once AGAIN those "peaceful Mislims are at it!

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[shazeep]

While these are sad, they amount to peering in to me, and IMO only lend credence to Islam (if djinn/satan are so intent upon co-opting and perverting the form)

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Your data seems incorrect.

http://books.google.com/books?id=IBQ...=0CDIQ6AEwCTgK

Is it?

Not according to this Yale Law article

http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/c...9&context=yjlh

When agitation for reform of statutory rape law first began in the United States in 1885, the age of consent in most states was ten years. Ten years was the English common law rule adopted by most of the newly-formed United States and the District of Columbia. Four years later, in 1889, Congress revised the statutory age in the D.C. criminal code upwards to sixteen years, where it remains today. In like measure, throughout the country during the 1880s and 1890s, state and territorial legislatures significantly raised the age of consent. Today, all states criminalize statutory rape in some form and the age of consent in the majority of states is sixteen years.

Not according to any other history source either actually. Here's a random one.

http://womhist.alexanderstreet.com/teacher/aoc.htm

American reformers were shocked to discover that the laws of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven. Women reformers and advocates of social purity initiated a campaign in 1885 to petition legislators to raise the legal age of consent to at least sixteen, although their ultimate goal was to raise the age to eighteen. The campaign was eventually quite successful; by 1920, almost all states had raised the age of consent to sixteen or eighteen.

Check again?

Unless........you want to perpetuate lies in a thread about a religion of lies...?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Typical! Thanks for demonstrating once again that YOU JUSTIFY Islamic perversion by the perversion of others! LOL!!!

Oh and your data is not accurate as demnonstrated by someone else. You just pull stuff out of the air and expect it to be believed.

So hear you go someo questions:
1) Do you believe its okay to marry a 6 year old girl?
2) Do you believe a grown man should be able to marry and have "relations" with a 9 year old girl?

If your answer is "yes" then you have proven your mindset.

If no:
3) Do you believe it is a perversion?


I think everyone else here would answer no and that it IS a perversion.
So your answer please.

My data is just fine. Still standing. Want some more sources? There are jillions of them and they all say the same thing and give the same ages - 7 in delaware and 10 in 25 other states. Because in Delaware, you had to swear in as a Christian to be a lawmaker and that is also from a reputable source.

So what society today defines to be perversion was, right or wrong in your eyes, acceptable in the past.

This acceptance in the past does not seem to be religious in nature.

For you, as a Christian, to call what a Muslim did 1450 years ago a perversion vs. Christianity and Christian beliefs then you need to conclusively demonstrate that this was a perversion in the eyes of God from the beginning of Christianity. Crack that book of yours open and go.

I know this: I am in no position to declare what is or is not perversion other than what the words in the books declare to be perversion. One of the things that is declared to be perversion in both your book and mine is standing on behalf of God and declaring judgement on a person or action with no written basis behind it. Doing so puts oneself in God's position and this is both a dangerous and perverted act.