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[shazeep]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

If this was the only one of your posts that I had read then I would agree with you. The truth is evident though when reading just a small portion of your posts.

and then you woke up, wadr...an evil way to put "that is just your opinion, and smells like an attack to me." I don't recall reading this from ILG. ever. me, maybe.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Ferd

dude, unless you believe everyone everywhere is saved regardless of their belief system, then you are no different from OPs with the exception that you have moved the line to some other place.


if you say that christians who have been baptized in the titles are saved, but people who practice Shintoism arent, then you are exactly the same as those you accuse. Your line has just shifted a bit.

It is the bible, not me that says "If the Gospel is hid, it is hid to those who are lost"

hmm, to that i would reply that it is not my business to judge other peoples' salvation. That is between them and God, however they see Him. Shinto is a pagan religion, so off to a bad start, imo; but that does not mean that some Shinto's may not have spiritually discovered "pick up your cross," which after all is just how we say "sacrifice yourself so that others may see."

Yes, i have moved the line--off the page, and into the spiritual--i would like to believe--which to me is just how we say "into the everyday human transactions of life." Now, relating that to your quote, i read "if being the bigger person in a difficult matter eludes you, it is because you have no clue." Would you accept that?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Amen. Carlton Pearson's doctrine. Not one person from Pentecost until the church leaves is saved withou obeying Acts 2:38.

Amen to that! And this includes the son who said he would not go work in the vineyard...and the sheep who did not understand how they had been included, etc. These people weren't perfect, by your model. They didn't have your holiness standards. They never said any of those words. They just did the right thing, and followed the one way.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by shazeep

hmm, to that i would reply that it is not my business to judge other peoples' salvation. That is between them and God, however they see Him.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

In another thread ILG said



So what about those people that you abuse and belittle....over and over and over and over...

You are not helping anyone nor are you trying to. You aren't persuading anyone either. You are just being intentionally obnoxious to people who still believe truth because you hate them for standing for what you wont.

May not be persuading anyone, but 100% correct, imo. And btw, show me the ILG post that mirrors this for vitriol good luck with that.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Ferd

This thread was a "yes i do" "no I dont" accounting of the members of the forum. until YOU came along with a gallon of gas and a torch and did violence to the peacful little thread.


talk about hypocrisy.

YOU are the one that devolved this thread and now you run off on a tantrum about how OPs are haters?

the only person here depicting the kind of vitriol you are pointing at other is YOU the advocate of abandoning religion.


blather

Peaceful little Thread?

Ferd, you need to take a little trip to the Middle East, where this all started. This is the most violent and volatile area on our Planet, where people are slaughtering each other in the name of Religion.

This is the problem with most American Christians: They see through the corrupted lens of our Culture, where we go to Church on Sunday and become God's friend if we'll follow a certain Tradition or Teaching. ALL Religions in the World do this in one form or another!

Don't forget, Ferd, Jesus Christ was murdered by the Religious. He made them furious, calling them blind hypocrites, full of dead men's bones, even though they were the most well versed in Scripture. In the United States, we have made Jesus into a United States figure, based upon a Sunday School message, a coloring book, or the latest movie.

When the Thief of the cross was pardoned, no Religion on Earth was there to appease his death bed confession. A man sought for mercy, and mercy was given. But to you "Know it All's", you would be trying to yank him off of the cross for a quick baptism, then you would scream in his face until he spoke in tongues.

Religion is the bondage of holding mercy to yourself.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

And that, dear misguided soul, is a flat out lie.

Whatever tangent you have went on, after you left pentecost, it has destroyed you.

Carry on.

It is? Give me an example. So, when does God mercy apply to someone? Go ahead and tell us. The exact moment.

If you can't tell me, specifically, then your doctrine is not valid or even truth.

No offense, but I've been delivered, not destroyed. Lies only carry us into Religion, where God is our Friend, and not the Friend of others.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Ferd

This thread was a "yes i do" "no I dont" accounting of the members of the forum. until YOU came along with a gallon of gas and a torch and did violence to the peacful little thread.

talk about hypocrisy.

YOU are the one that devolved this thread and now you run off on a tantrum about how OPs are haters?

the only person here depicting the kind of vitriol you are pointing at other is YOU the advocate of abandoning religion.

blather

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Prax, it won't matter, they won't see.

Nothing like having eyes but not seeing, having ears and not hearing.

That's right! Religion has blinded you! Religion has caused you not to hear! That's exactly what Jesus said to the Scribes and Pharisees!

[shazeep]

amen to that. as long as it serves you, by all means keep it. but if/when you keep noticing strife around it, at least examine it, wadr. i mean strife among believers, as you will of course cause the evil to strive if you are practicing correctly.