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Old 05-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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I'm not Dan - But the answer to the first question is yes. And the answer to the second is only after the proper authorities have been contacted.
That's OK. They were rhetorical questions anyway.
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Stupid???

Bro ... many of these men are reported to the higher authorities ... and 9/10 it's the victims that are then labeled as the TROUBLE MAKERS ...
Happens all the time.
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Stealing, raping, molesting, and destroying have been redefined.

They tend to mean "preach standards" in spiritual abuse jargon.
For someone who has read through this site ... it does not only address standards but those who manipulate and control and commit atrocities
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Stealing, raping, molesting, and destroying have been redefined.

They tend to mean "preach standards" in spiritual abuse jargon.
No, actually, there are people on that site who have been hurt due to stealing, raping, molesting and destruction -- and not just actions of pastors, but also fathers, mothers, brothers, and sisters.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:13 PM
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Are you going to continue to defend .... those few who have used their pulpits and positions... to steal, rape, molest, destroy, harass ?.... simply because they should not be held accountable by victims of these heinous acts.....
Dan,

I am not defending anyone. I am simply saying that Jesus and Paul would have been accused and ripped by the pharisees and Demas because from their perspective they were abused. Unjustly? Yes, but drawn and quartered nevertheless.

i simply see no benefit to the public display of such. As to accountability, there are better ways than a web site filled with public bleeding and often vitriolic bitterness.
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That's OK. They were rhetorical questions anyway.
ROFLOL -- Oh, sorry, I'm a bit slow on the uptake at times...
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:14 PM
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Happens all the time.
I know it happens ALL THE TIME ... I'VE WITNESSED THE APATHY, INDIFFERENCE, NEPOTISM AND COVER-UPS
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Dan,

I am not defending anyone. I am simply saying that Jesus and Paul would have been accused and ripped by the pharisees and Demas because from their perspective they were abused. Unjustly? Yes, but drawn and quartered nevertheless.

i simply see no benefit to the public display of such. As to accountability, there are better ways than a web site filled with public bleeding and often vitriolic bitterness.
Yet those responsible should continue to go unchecked ......eghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:15 PM
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Really ... I see no flaws ... only examples of times when truth exposed sin .....

Many of these victims have tried the proper channels to no avail ... should they stay quiet ... should they not tell their stories .... should they remain bitter
Have you considered that they might be the Pharisees and Demas and unjustly spewing venom?
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:16 PM
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Stupid???

Bro ... many of these men are reported to the higher authorities ... and 9/10 it's the victims that are then labeled as the TROUBLE MAKERS ...
Your assertion that PJ defends men who commit such actions was STUPID!
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