UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges

[canam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I am not blaming the victim.

I am saying that she is not a victim. She wasn't raped and I can almost guarantee that the former Pastor did not cast a spell on her causing her to fall head-over-heels into his evil clutches. I say this with confidence because of her age. If she is a victim, then so is he.

She is not innocent. I wonder if Ohio has laws against adultery on their books.


As for the bolded part of your post, I have no clue where that came from and do not remember making statements that confirm that accusation.

I'm not the one not charging him with statutory rape. I live in Florida.



Our society is always so quick to treat youth offenders as adults when it is doubtful that the offenders thought through their actions and the consequences.


However, with each sex act, she would have had to think about it.

On the way to do the deed, she thought about it.
As she undressed, she thought about it.
When she was done the first time, she thought about it.
When she was done the 2nd time, and so on, she thought about it.
When she looked at that man's wife in church, she thought about it.
When she went home at night, she had to think about it.

In order for there to be mercy, there has to be guilt.


To deny the guilt of this 16 year old is to deny her the opportunity for mercy.

JD put the shovel down, when your in a hole stop digging.You have officialy lost it man.SHE WAS STATUTORILY RAPED DUE TO HER AGE AND HIS .Their is no consent that can be given because of her age and his.In my state 16 is legal, but not when he is 47 and her pastor or an authority figure IE: teacher ,coach etc.

[geekette]

Originally Posted by coadie

Teacher, doctors, ministers, therapists have restrictions.

Will the ACLU demand they have equal rights?

Erm, no, they are in special positions of trust. How hard is this to understand?

[scotty]

Originally Posted by geekette

I think your attitude towards your minor daughter's privacy is repulsive. But then again, you seem to think your minor daughter is to blame for what happened between and a man seven years her senior and in a position of power and authority.

I'm sorry if you think this is harsh, but you know, I've been online for 20 years, and frankly, what you're doing here to your daughter is cruel. Once it's gotten on the internet, it does not go away.

I implore you, please take down that post, for the benefit of your deceased daughter.

Sorry to repulse you. And I have stated in my post several times that I do not blame my daughter. I dont think your being harsh, your entitled to your opinion. As I have stated, if I thought for an instant that my daughters privacy or mine was in jepardy I would not have posted it. But you see, one has to lay all of this out or else what one says is just "ignorant" on this forum. Its not until you spill your guts here that people wake up and realize you just might know a little of what your talking about. Sad, but true.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by canam

JD put the shovel down, when your in a hole stop digging.You have officialy lost it man.SHE WAS STATUTORILY RAPED DUE TO HER AGE AND HIS .Their is no consent that can be given because of her age and his.In my state 16 is legal, but not when he is 47 and her pastor or an authority figure IE: teacher ,coach etc.

No I haven't lost it.

I have found forgiveness and I am finding it daily.


The first step in finding that forgiveness is acknowledging how screwed up I am.

Just because one is a teenager, it does not mean they don't know what time it is.

[canam]

Ps DA, how do you find this stuff ? Do you constantly troll online search engines for anything with the upc involved ? Man get a life dude !!!!

[scotty]

Originally Posted by canam

Ps da, how do you find this stuff. Do you constantly troll online search engines for anything with the upc involved. Man get a life dude !!!!

:thum bsup

[coadie]

Originally Posted by geekette

Yes, and obviously the families were involved in the arranged marriage. Our modern equivalent would be a parent giving consent to a marriage involving a 16 or 17 YO minor. But I don't think we want to go back to arranged marriages, do we?

Arranged marriages had a better success rate?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I am not blaming the victim.

I am saying that she is not a victim. She wasn't raped and I can almost guarantee that the former Pastor did not cast a spell on her causing her to fall head-over-heels into his evil clutches. I say this with confidence because of her age. If she is a victim, then so is he.

She is not innocent. I wonder if Ohio has laws against adultery on their books.


As for the bolded part of your post, I have no clue where that came from and do not remember making statements that confirm that accusation.

I'm not the one not charging him with statutory rape. I live in Florida.



Our society is always so quick to treat youth offenders as adults when it is doubtful that the offenders thought through their actions and the consequences.


However, with each sex act, she would have had to think about it.

On the way to do the deed, she thought about it.
As she undressed, she thought about it.
When she was done the first time, she thought about it.
When she was done the 2nd time, and so on, she thought about it.
When she looked at that man's wife in church, she thought about it.
When she went home at night, she had to think about it.

In order for there to be mercy, there has to be guilt.


To deny the guilt of this 16 year old is to deny her the opportunity for mercy.

Unless she is mentally handicapped, then I'd say she is innocent and guiltless.

[Ohio Pastor]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

And this changes things how?

Just sayin.....Is that wrong?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by canam

Ps DA, how do you find this stuff ? Do you constantly troll online search engines for anything with the upc involved ? Man get a life dude !!!!

This is the tabloid for Pennycostals. Gossipp place.