Ministries for women porn addicts

[Jeffrey]

Matthew 5:28
{5:28} But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.


This scripture should be written down in the long list of many others that is unfortunately misunderstood, and misinterpreted.

This wasn't a code or strict law Christ was creating. He was rather humbling, and implicating those who thought they were perfect by strict obedience to the Law. He's telling them basically "You think you got it all together, you think you are perfect. But I tell you, even if you've looked on another woman with lust in your heart you've sinned." I think Jesus knew this was a deal breaker for anyone. The message to the Pharisee was "YOU ARE A SINNER!" But his point wasn't to implicate into condemnation, but so they would realize the insufficiency of their own righteousness which was nothing more than filthy rags.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think there's a difference between what images randomly pop into your head and what ideas you allow yourself to focus on. It's not wrong to see a beautiful woman, notice that she's beautiful, and even have an instantaneous [involuntary] sexual response. However, if you allow yourself to continue that feeling unchecked by the boundaries of morality put in place by the laws of God, then you are going down the path of lust, fornication and/or adultery.

II Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

This is an area I think a guy can "improve" but to expect perfection is the hugest burden of condemnation anyone can handle.

Besides, I would love to see a poll of how many people have ever fantasized about someone else while making love to the person they are committed to.

I'm pushing the envelope a little, MB. Probably because I agree with you, but also know the reality of the situation. Going through an Every Man's Battle thought checklist in the middle of sexual intercourse isn't likely.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

PO, so you believe your personal experience is superior than other's who choose to be more adventurous?

Jeffery,
You simply do not know my past. My personal experience is what I always desired. I'm quite sure that if my husband preceded me in death, I would never remarry.

And, if you will look back, I believe that I said, "I'm sure that we all have our personal preferences, of which I won't argue."

Therefore, you can see that I do not place my personal experience as "superior" to any other. I just wanted to simply share another side.

I've read books about the "role playing" - even written by Christians. My husband and I found that was not true nor necessary for our lives. That is simply my point. Not everyone needs to "role play" to be stimulated and satisfied.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Jeffery,
You simply do not know my past. My personal experience is what I always desired. I'm quite sure that if my husband preceded me in death, I would never remarry.

And, if you will look back, I believe that I said, "I'm sure that we all have our personal preferences, of which I won't argue."

Therefore, you can see that I do not place my personal experience as "superior" to any other. I just wanted to simply share another side.

I've read books about the "role playing" - even written by Christians. My husband and I found that was not true nor necessary for our lives. That is simply my point. Not everyone needs to "role play" to be stimulated and satisfied.

If someone "needs to" role play, I think that could be a problem. IMO, you don't just do what you "need" to do--there's room for doing things just because they're fun.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

If someone "needs to" role play, I think that could be a problem. IMO, you don't just do what you "need" to do--there's room for doing things just because they're fun.

I'm sure that the couples "role playing" are all saying they are having fun. LOL!

It's almost like drinking so that you can make it work, one more time. You may not understand what I am saying. LOL!

I think I just take issue with Christians teaching, that it can be an important part of the marriage bed, when in fact, I don't think it is.

Really, I'm trying to be careful with my words and extend our thinking a bit on this subject. A prostitute will role play to get through her trick. A "dancer" will do her drugs to get through the night of dancing.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I'm sure that the couples "role playing" are all saying they are having fun. LOL!

It's almost like drinking so that you can make it work, one more time. You may not understand what I am saying. LOL!

I think I just take issue with Christians teaching, that it can be an important part of the marriage bed, when in fact, I don't think it is.

Really, I'm trying to be careful with my words and extend our thinking a bit on this subject. A prostitute will role play to get through her trick. A "dancer" will do her drugs to get through the night of dancing.

Making myself look "sexy" in some way for my husband is not the same as playing a role just to "get through" a trick or drinking to "get through" a night of dancing. I don't have to tolerate sex. It's enjoyable. You're comparing apples and oranges.

I never said role playing was important. I don't think it's important at all. I would disagree with anyone teaching that it's an important part of a healthy sex life. What's "important" is determined by the two individuals in the relationship and by what fulfills the needs of each spouse.

I really don't get the entirety of what you're trying to say, and I realize you may not be able to articulate it on a public forum. Don't feel that you have to explain yourself to an uncomfortable extent.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Making myself look "sexy" in some way for my husband is not the same as playing a role just to "get through" a trick or drinking to "get through" a night of dancing. I don't have to tolerate sex. It's enjoyable. You're comparing apples and oranges.

I never said role playing was important. I don't think it's important at all. I would disagree with anyone teaching that it's an important part of a healthy sex life. What's "important" is determined by the two individuals in the relationship and by what fulfills the needs of each spouse.

I really don't get the entirety of what you're trying to say, and I realize you may not be able to articulate it on a public forum. Don't feel that you have to explain yourself to an uncomfortable extent.

No, I'm not really comparing apples to oranges. Role playing has roots in places like Corinth and into Playboy.

Looking "sexy" for a spouse doesn't have to include "role playing".

What I am trying to say is that we need to be careful on advising or encouraging couples what is "okay" or "innocent" in their marriage. Too argue that we cannot be right if we disagree.

Some couples may need to leave things in their past as it only incites a lust they wanted to leave behind. A lust that is not healthy in a marriage and only opens doors that need to be left shut. I think we just need to see that side of it when we discuss what we all feel is important for every couple.

One couple may view that as so innocent they cannot conceive that anything could be wrong it in. Another couple may view that as a door they dare not touch and they dare not open.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

No, I'm not really comparing apples to oranges. Role playing has roots in places like Corinth and into Playboy.

Looking "sexy" for a spouse doesn't have to include "role playing".

What I am trying to say is that we need to be careful on advising or encouraging couples what is "okay" or "innocent" in their marriage. Too argue that we cannot be right if we disagree.

Some couples may need to leave things in their past as it only incites a lust they wanted to leave behind. A lust that is not healthy in a marriage and only opens doors that need to be left shut. I think we just need to see that side of it when we discuss what we all feel is important for every couple.

One couple may view that as so innocent they cannot conceive that anything could be wrong it in. Another couple may view that as a door they dare not touch and they dare not open.

Understood. Which is why couples need to work that out between themselves, and outside recommendations are fairly inappropriate. IOW, I don't want a third party telling me I need to "try this or that." To that end, I can see how someone teaching on the subject could cause offense or harm by suggesting specific ideas or acts. Best to cover it from a biblical, principled point of view, and leave the specifics to the couple.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Understood. Which is why couples need to work that out between themselves, and outside recommendations are fairly inappropriate. IOW, I don't want a third party telling me I need to "try this or that." To that end, I can see how someone teaching on the subject could cause offense or harm by suggesting specific ideas or acts. Best to cover it from a biblical, principled point of view, and leave the specifics to the couple.

Yes, Ma'am - exactly!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

uhhhh...no. It's simply seeing your spouse in a different way. That can be fun.



There's nothing wrong with playing games. The games don't really work if you don't already have chemistry.

I agree.